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5 alpha victim
"Good news regards screenname, because if a whole load of people from PH come on here with their negative screen names and victim mentalities, then i will disappear and i know that Entropy and CD share the same thoughts on it."
I'm trying to change the screen name. It does not look like the settings give me the option. I will need to send a message to the administrator to request the change. I would not worry about a bunch of the PH guys coming over here. They are not looking for a place to talk to people with knowledge for a hobby and to better themselves.
"The reason i retain belief in the DHT derivatives is because i know they might well be responsible for the final 10% / optimising in a shorter time frame, also because i respect CD and Entropy and their decision making processes and they rate them".
It's good to know that IF I decided to use the DHT derivatives sooner than later that maybe the usage could speed things up. Its awesome that you have people like CD and Entropy that you can trust and rely on when making decisions about going left or right. In this type of a situation with stakes this high having people like these guys advising you is huge. People like myself looking in from the outside understand how important that is and truly understand how much that means.
" However do not take them unless testing shows your HPTA axis is in good order (or, like CD did, you are already feeling 70% recovered"
"Entropy was already referring to himself as functioning well and being out of the woods etc. before taking them".
My HPTA is in good shape. Even though Clomid has its disadvantages I still believe it did recover my HPTA. It's been over a year now and I have had several blood readings that indicate Total Testosterone levels in the mid 700's. For a thirty year old these are certainly normal. My SHBG, estrogen and free T levels are all perfect as well. My LH is normal but my FSH remains a little on the low side.
So it's clear that in CD'S , Entropy's and in your case you guys where all at about 70 percent recovered before increasing 5 Alpha Reductase activity via cycling DHT pro hormones. That is very important information. You guys are about it for guys that have been diligent enough to follow CD's protocol so I really am happy that I have been lucky enough to talk to you guys. And please if my analysis regarding my 70 percent conclusion is wrong please correct me.
With that said Its becoming clear to me that the majority of the recovery that takes place during this protocol is from fasting (cleansing), cycling Herbs to increase your Natty T levels (and to get other dietary benefits from them) and by eating a strict Paleo diet with a proper/reasonable gym routine.
English, so we have discussed in detail your usage with DHT prohormones as they relate to your recovery. How about your experience with fasting and cycling the herbs? How have these elements of the program contributed to your progress?