Originally Posted by
D-575
I was wondering this same exact thing today! Nice to see other guys are thinking the same things as me.
I've always wanted to know how a nice long epiandro run would be, specifically the extent of shutdown.
Epiandro has always interested me because of it's profile. It's DHT-based so it should primarily give dry, lean gains with emphasis on energy, endurance, and mood. It seems like it would be ideal to run for a cut. The stack I have in mind is a minimum of 8 weeks of epiandro and 11-oxo. I'd even consider a 12 week run and bring in 11-oxo at the start of week 5.
The only dilemma is which form of epiandro would be best, TD or cyclodextrin complexed? Perhaps even a combination of the two.
Wesley loves epiandro, however, for some reason I'm having a really hard time believing he gets effects from the doses he uses. Almost every epiandro log/review I've read have used 800mg+. IIRC, Wesley basically runs 300-400mg of IML's epi, that's insane. That's the dosages I see people running with Ultra Stano, and it's supposed to be superior to regular epiandro. Am I missing something here? Is the addition of grape seed and piperine really that effective in potentiating regular epiandro?
And did IML stop producing it's epiandro product? Not really sure on this new esterfied line-up. It's supposed to be pretty much equivalent to what Primordial did, right?
Has anyone tried TD epiandro yet?