Need help overcoming hopefully my final stages of PFS

[Atticas]

You're still not getting it though, because you're saying "if 6 months is what it takes then i'll do it", like it's some kind of ordeal that must be got out of the way and then stopped. This is a way of life, not water fasting obviously, but fasting is the start point, then living ridiculously healthy has to be the way of life for you - as a minimum for 2 years, regardless of recovery, and when you've lived like that for so long and felt the benefits, then it will likely become something you want to do for life anyhow.
The problem you will have with your current mindset is that you won't be feeling positive about things that are hard to do. Fasting is hard, sprints and calisthnetics are hard, sticking to a diet is hard, especially when suffering to whatever degree, so you have to enjoy all these disciplines and get jacked up by doing them, not thinking "phew, just 4 months left of this shit"
You have to have the right mindset for all of this, cd will certainly agree with me on this.
Right now you will definitely fail, i would bet my house on it. You need to do some thinking about the person you want to be and you need to see this as an opportunity to test your character.

I shouldn't have wrote it that way... basically what I mean to say is "six MORE months" of trying something different in hopes of defeating PFS once and for all. I've already been trying to fight this disease in multiple different ways... this will just be a new way I look forward to committing to. It's been hard for me to discern which way to go about fighting this for a long time. I mean, since the very beginning of my fight, i've seen people posting all sorts of theories and I've read all sorts of scientific backings for these multiple theories had... but this definitely seems to be the right place for me to have finally landed, with so many of you having actually healed and all seemingly relying on the same protocol instead of relying on MULTIPLE different theories spread throughout MULTIPLE different threads.

Anyways, my diet is already borderline paleo as it is (other that the sugar I occasionally indulge in), I've been writing up diet plans and eating mostly gluten-free, dairy-free since I was in college, and i'm certainly not afraid of exercise, considering I've been a gym fanatic and athletic type person since age 14. This won't be near my toughest challenge yet.

So if you're betting your house on me not having enough willpower to stick through this, expect to lose the house.

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I shouldn't have wrote it that way... basically what I mean to say is "six MORE months" of trying something different in hopes of defeating PFS once and for all. I've already been trying to fight this disease in multiple different ways... this will just be a new way I look forward to committing to. It's been hard for me to discern which way to go about fighting this for a long time. I mean, since the very beginning of my fight, i've seen people posting all sorts of theories and I've read all sorts of scientific backings for these multiple theories had... but this definitely seems to be the right place for me to have finally landed, with so many of you having actually healed and all seemingly relying on the same protocol instead of relying on MULTIPLE different theories spread throughout MULTIPLE different threads.

Anyways, my diet is already borderline paleo as it is (other that the sugar I occasionally indulge in), I've been writing up diet plans and eating mostly gluten-free, dairy-free since I was in college, and i'm certainly not afraid of exercise, considering I've been a gym fanatic and athletic type person since age 14. This won't be near my toughest challenge yet.

So if you're betting your house on me not having enough willpower to stick through this, expect to lose the house.

Good, it's just a paleo type diet though not strict paleo, in fact strict paleo people argue over what is strict paleo so best not to get too caught up in it. Dairy fine if your not intolerant and high fat dairy like cheese and cream is good for T. For me dairy is a key component. High quality animal fat and meat, high fat diet in general, lots of veg, eggs, nuts, that kind of thing. Very important to eat as organic as possible, no processed sugar at all.
This way is the only way. I've not seen any recovery stories involving chemical assistance that - when taken away - leaves a state of full recovery, and the vast majority of HRT fail within 30 days to 2 months, leaving those who are "successful" slightly better off but not living full lives. I saw a quote from one of the guys being treated by one of the two famous doc in this area - shippen i think - that basically outlined how the doc admitted he had never in all the years treating post fin, had a succesful long term result.
It's this way or nothing, unless you are one of the guys that just spontaneously recover 3 to 15 years out, and by doing the regimen, you're not blocking that possibility either. Note: Every "spontaneous" recovery i've read about also involves the guy disappearing from forums - basically giving up on trying to find an answer - and just living healthily, which is basically the regimen, except we put rocket boosters under the fucker and improvements are felt pretty much quarterly if not monthly.

Never mention any symptom again, stop screaming at the mirror as that doesn't help does it, and believe me, you are much bigger and better looking than you think you are, part of this stuff is body dysmorphia and you have to recognise that to move forward.


I wouldn't bet my house now as your mindset may be changing, but i would still bet a lot, so yeah, prove me wrong.

[Atticas]

Good, it's just a paleo type diet though not strict paleo, in fact strict paleo people argue over what is strict paleo so best not to get too caught up in it. Dairy fine if your not intolerant and high fat dairy like cheese and cream is good for T. For me dairy is a key component. High quality animal fat and meat, high fat diet in general, lots of veg, eggs, nuts, that kind of thing. Very important to eat as organic as possible, no processed sugar at all.
This way is the only way. I've not seen any recovery stories involving chemical assistance that - when taken away - leaves a state of full recovery, and the vast majority of HRT fail within 30 days to 2 months, leaving those who are "successful" slightly better off but not living full lives. I saw a quote from one of the guys being treated by one of the two famous doc in this area - shippen i think - that basically outlined how the doc admitted he had never in all the years treating post fin, had a succesful long term result.
It's this way or nothing, unless you are one of the guys that just spontaneously recover 3 to 15 years out, and by doing the regimen, you're not blocking that possibility either. Note: Every "spontaneous" recovery i've read about also involves the guy disappearing from forums - basically giving up on trying to find an answer - and just living healthily, which is basically the regimen, except we put rocket boosters under the fucker and improvements are felt pretty much quarterly if not monthly.

Never mention any symptom again, stop screaming at the mirror as that doesn't help does it, and believe me, you are much bigger and better looking than you think you are, part of this stuff is body dysmorphia and you have to recognise that to move forward.


I wouldn't bet my house now as your mindset may be changing, but i would still bet a lot, so yeah, prove me wrong.

Thanks for the positivity man.

I honestly think I'm headed in the right track here and I'm excited for it. I don't think it's going to happen that I'd have to wait 3 to 15 years for this to fall off. Based off of the different success stories I've read from propeciahelp and solvepfs, it really just sounds like you've got to make some big changes in your health and fitness, take good certain herbs and probiotics, and just kill whatever the fuck in your body is not allowing you to return back to normal....

....and that's what I'm going to do. I'm gonna kill the fucker in my body and I'm gonna grow back into the beast I know I could be all along.