Need help overcoming hopefully my final stages of PFS

[Atticas]

It's widely available in all stores in Australia (I'm unsure about the States).

If you're taking VSL#3, you're getting 30 billion of plantarum out of that - so no need to get the IBS support too.

Alright, I'll just stick with the VSL#3 then.

GOD I'm ready to do this already. This wait sucks

[Atticas]

quick question for everyone btw,

Can someone please link me some articles/research on the benefits of juice fasting?

I just wanna know I have solid reasoning for doing this going in. I told someone I was gonna go on this fast and they sent me a link basically trying to discredit the whole idea -___-

I'm still planning on going through with it nevertheless. I can do more research on my own later but I'm at work right now about to come back from lunch break

[Cdsnuts]

quick question for everyone btw,

Can someone please link me some articles/research on the benefits of juice fasting?

I just wanna know I have solid reasoning for doing this going in. I told someone I was gonna go on this fast and they sent me a link basically trying to discredit the whole idea -___-

I'm still planning on going through with it nevertheless. I can do more research on my own later but I'm at work right now about to come back from lunch break

smh

This is growing tiresome.

If you're going to try and find reasons not do do something, in most cases you always will. Do me a favor..... Stop pming me so many questions if you're not going to follow my advice.

Stop wasting time and just do the damn thing already. Jesus.....

It is very clear after your numerous posts you're not ready. You just keep posting these things that jump out at everyone on the other side of this that you're completely dragging your feet.

This person that you told about your juice feast.....are they experienced doing these things? Have they done several extended fasts on water and juice? Are they suffering from pfs? I'm curious.

[Snell1234]

smh

This is growing tiresome.

If you're going to try and find reasons not do do something, in most cases you always will. Do me a favor..... Stop pming me so many questions if you're not going to follow my advice.

Stop wasting time and just do the damn thing already. Jesus.....

It is very clear after your numerous posts you're not ready. You just keep posting these things that jump out at everyone on the other side of this that you're completely dragging your feet.

This person that you told about your juice feast.....are they experienced doing these things? Have they done several extended fasts on water and juice? Are they suffering from pfs? I'm curious.

Atticas, he's right. You have to just do it. Don't tell anyone what you are doing, keep it all to yourself. People will criticise and tell you not to do what you are doing as they have no idea about what you are going through and what you need to do.

This is a battle you must win. No one else is going to do it for you. There is absolutely zero point sharing any of it with outsiders. I do not tell anyone what I do. I go to restaurants all the time with mates but don't eat. I cop it for not eating and get lots of questions, but I don't care. I am on a mission and peer pressure and people's questions and judgements are not going to stop me. You have to adopt a single minded approach to this where you freeze everything and everyone else out and do what you need to do.

[Atticas]

smh

This is growing tiresome.

If you're going to try and find reasons not do do something, in most cases you always will. Do me a favor..... Stop pming me so many questions if you're not going to follow my advice.

Stop wasting time and just do the damn thing already. Jesus.....

It is very clear after your numerous posts you're not ready. You just keep posting these things that jump out at everyone on the other side of this that you're completely dragging your feet.

This person that you told about your juice feast.....are they experienced doing these things? Have they done several extended fasts on water and juice? Are they suffering from pfs? I'm curious.

I LITERALLY just said I'm still going through with it; All I was asking for was some research/scientific reasoning behind what I'm doing, or I suppose you'd rather my response be to everyone "Oh, well some guy on the internet told me to". Practically the only reason i'm even CONSIDERING going through with this is because other people claim to have healed from your same protocol, certainly not because of any huge body of scientific detail you've proposed here.

So yea, forgive me for asking questions, forgive me for wanting to have a few more drinks with a friend before I go cold turkey the rest of the year, and forgive me for questioning whether I could possibly take a better quality supplement than one of the ones you suggested.

Tell me though, WTF part of thousands of dollars spent in trying to cure this over the last year and a half says "Not ready" to you? WTF does visiting 6 different doctors, even flying out to see one make you think I "don't really want this"? What part of the fact that I stated I already purchased goddamn near $300 worth of your supplement list says I won't go through with it? Or the fact that the juicer's already sitting in my kitchen? I'm not scared of your stupid paleo diet, I've BEEN borderline on it for 5 years, and I'm CERTAINLY not scared of any of the exercise you mention considering I've worked out religiously since I was 14. Frankly, you seriously don't know who the hell you're talking to.

Look, I already told you the due date for this starts in May after I get back from the beach with a friend, which BTW, is part of an 11 day vacation I took JUST to do this juice fast you all claim is so important but don't give me any real scientific detail behind. Regardless, it will happen. I will go through with it. You all go ahead and keep doubting me and giving me your stupid fucking high-horse, condescending responses and believe me, I will come out stronger than you ever goddamn imagined. I was a fucking fit, energetic beast before all this happened, and I will be again, with or without you all believing in me.

I'll update this thread after I start the fast or something, but don't expect a response from me for a while after this. I tried to come at this respectfully and kind, but the elitism horseshit in these forums is pissing me off. I'm not sucking anyone's egotistical, cyber dick to heal from this.

[Snell1234]

I LITERALLY just said I'm still going through with it; All I was asking for was some research/scientific reasoning behind what I'm doing, or I suppose you'd rather my response be to everyone "Oh, well some guy on the internet told me to". Practically the only reason i'm even CONSIDERING going through with this is because other people claim to have healed from your same protocol, certainly not because of any huge body of scientific detail you've proposed here.

So yea, forgive me for asking questions, forgive me for wanting to have a few more drinks with a friend before I go cold turkey the rest of the year, and forgive me for questioning whether I could possibly take a better quality supplement than one of the ones you suggested.

Tell me though, WTF part of thousands of dollars spent in trying to cure this over the last year and a half says "Not ready" to you? WTF does visiting 6 different doctors, even flying out to see one make you think I "don't really want this"? What part of the fact that I stated I already purchased goddamn near $300 worth of your supplement list says I won't go through with it? Or the fact that the juicer's already sitting in my kitchen? I'm not scared of your stupid paleo diet, I've BEEN borderline on it for 5 years, and I'm CERTAINLY not scared of any of the exercise you mention considering I've worked out religiously since I was 14. Frankly, you seriously don't know who the hell you're talking to.

Look, I already told you the due date for this starts in May after I get back from the beach with a friend, which BTW, is part of an 11 day vacation I took JUST to do this juice fast you all claim is so important but don't give me any real scientific detail behind. Regardless, it will happen. I will go through with it. You all go ahead and keep doubting me and giving me your stupid fucking high-horse, condescending responses and believe me, I will come out stronger than you ever goddamn imagined. I was a fucking fit, energetic beast before all this happened, and I will be again, with or without you all believing in me.

I'll update this thread after I start the fast or something, but don't expect a response from me for a while after this. I tried to come at this respectfully and kind, but the elitism horseshit in these forums is pissing me off. I'm not sucking anyone's egotistical, cyber dick to heal from this.

Mate, settle. Yes, it might appear people are being hard on you. But it is being done for your own good. These guys have been where you are and have got themselves out of it. They are the best to speak to on this issue. The reason they may seem to be hard on you is that they have had hundreds of other people come to them for advice only to ignore their advice completely, implements parts and not all of what they say, or give up after a short period. These people then say the protocol didn't work. You've got to see it would be a source of frustration for Cdnuts when this happens.

Also, Cdnuts doesn't need anything from you. But you are after advice from him. Generally, when someone needs something off another person, you shouldn't speak to the person like that even if you think you have been harshly treated.

In regards to scientific detail, you aren't going to get that from Cdnuts or probably anyone. No one knows what pfs is for sure and probably never will. You have to place your faith in his protocol and live it. I understand it will be hard, but life is hard and nothing comes easy. It's a matter of how much you want this.

In terms of other people and their advice, there will always be some people that say something is good and another set of people who say the same thing is bad. For all Cdnuts has said, there could be some expert who says it is not the right approach. This doesn't make the expert right (far from it, in fact). It just shows that you will never find a protocol like this which gains approval from everyone.

[5 alpha victim]

I LITERALLY just said I'm still going through with it; All I was asking for was some research/scientific reasoning behind what I'm doing, or I suppose you'd rather my response be to everyone "Oh, well some guy on the internet told me to". Practically the only reason i'm even CONSIDERING going through with this is because other people claim to have healed from your same protocol, certainly not because of any huge body of scientific detail you've proposed here.

So yea, forgive me for asking questions, forgive me for wanting to have a few more drinks with a friend before I go cold turkey the rest of the year, and forgive me for questioning whether I could possibly take a better quality supplement than one of the ones you suggested.

Tell me though, WTF part of thousands of dollars spent in trying to cure this over the last year and a half says "Not ready" to you? WTF does visiting 6 different doctors, even flying out to see one make you think I "don't really want this"? What part of the fact that I stated I already purchased goddamn near $300 worth of your supplement list says I won't go through with it? Or the fact that the juicer's already sitting in my kitchen? I'm not scared of your stupid paleo diet, I've BEEN borderline on it for 5 years, and I'm CERTAINLY not scared of any of the exercise you mention considering I've worked out religiously since I was 14. Frankly, you seriously don't know who the hell you're talking to.

Look, I already told you the due date for this starts in May after I get back from the beach with a friend, which BTW, is part of an 11 day vacation I took JUST to do this juice fast you all claim is so important but don't give me any real scientific detail behind. Regardless, it will happen. I will go through with it. You all go ahead and keep doubting me and giving me your stupid fucking high-horse, condescending responses and believe me, I will come out stronger than you ever goddamn imagined. I was a fucking fit, energetic beast before all this happened, and I will be again, with or without you all believing in me.

I'll update this thread after I start the fast or something, but don't expect a response from me for a while after this. I tried to come at this respectfully and kind, but the elitism horseshit in these forums is pissing me off. I'm not sucking anyone's egotistical, cyber dick to heal from this.

Getting pissed off enough is just a part of what needs to happen to follow this protocol.

The sooner the drinking stops the better.

[Brazilianguy]

Getting pissed off enough is just a part of what needs to happen to follow this protocol.

The sooner the drinking stops the better.

Man, follow every step of The protocol. It really does work. I'm feeling good at The moment, could be better But now I have some Líbido, some energy, some days with morning wood. Read cdnuts, Jelissej, apr1989, hopingformore, Beekay, elb, light at the end, multispeed27 and you will see that They did a lot of things in common.

Cd, If you're reading this, I have a quick question. I was doing well until I started gym and eating a lot of oats (my cholesterol dropped a lot) I felt a mini crashed But I already recover (eating a lot of eggs and bacon). One thing I noticed, as soon as I started doing gym, my supplements/herbs stopped working and I didn't improve anymore, then I tested stopping gym for 15 days and take them again, everything worked again, now I started gym again and they stopped working. My diet is fine, I'm not drinking even a drop of alcohol for a long time. Do you think I should stop doing gym to let my body recover? I was doing really intense training and getting good results, but supplements stopped working and no improvements in libido, pfs in general,as soon as I stopped they worked again (sorry to sound repetitive)

[Cdsnuts]

Man, follow every step of The protocol. It really does work. I'm feeling good at The moment, could be better But now I have some Líbido, some energy, some days with morning wood. Read cdnuts, Jelissej, apr1989, hopingformore, Beekay, elb, light at the end, multispeed27 and you will see that They did a lot of things in common.

Cd, If you're reading this, I have a quick question. I was doing well until I started gym and eating a lot of oats (my cholesterol dropped a lot) I felt a mini crashed But I already recover (eating a lot of eggs and bacon). One thing I noticed, as soon as I started doing gym, my supplements/herbs stopped working and I didn't improve anymore, then I tested stopping gym for 15 days and take them again, everything worked again, now I started gym again and they stopped working. My diet is fine, I'm not drinking even a drop of alcohol for a long time. Do you think I should stop doing gym to let my body recover? I was doing really intense training and getting good results, but supplements stopped working and no improvements in libido, pfs in general,as soon as I stopped they worked again (sorry to sound repetitive)

It sounds like you're over doing it a bit. Start a calisthenics routine for a month or so and see how that feels. Push ups, pulls ups, squats, handstand push ups, etc. You can search online for countless programs. Pick one and do it. After a month or two, just throw in one weighted exercise per body part mixed in the calisthenics and then see how you do. Stick with this for a few weeks and increase slowly constantly measuring your bodies response to the work. Increase accordingly.