Been a long time coming! Overwhelmed and don't know where to start.

[Swill]

You're at a particularly sensitive time having come out of a fast/feast too. Sometimes it can be too much/too soon for your digestive system and it's letting you know as such. This happened a few times with me. The worst cramps and shits ever!

[K8668B]

You're at a particularly sensitive time having come out of a fast/feast too. Sometimes it can be too much/too soon for your digestive system and it's letting you know as such. This happened a few times with me. The worst cramps and shits ever!

That would explain everything!

Last night was the only time ive consumed gluten since the fast, and in the last 4 months, ive probably only consumed gluten 2 times, including last night.

Also ive been having ridiculous gas in general since the fast. And it doesnt even feel like im eating all that much anyways. But ill have my typical shit in the morning, then its followed by this weird gas, that will stay with me for the next 3 hours. And this is even with an empty stomach. Ill take my herb in the morning, coffee, then gym immediately. It doesnt finally dissipate until 3 hours later. And the gas isnt even painful, and it doesnt cause cramps, but its just annoying. I've been having to alot of times just goto the bathroom and rip one, just so i dont do it front of a bunch of girls in the gym. lol. Its become somewhat disruptive.

Also ive been eating alot of collard greens in my protein shakes, because i ran out of kale and spinach. Need to get some more. Im going to stop with the collard greens. That could be contributing to it as well.

[K8668B]

Update-

I've had some ups and downs. Its been 12 days since breaking my fast. Not in a good mood right now.

For the last 2 or 3 days, before today, the gas went away. I stopped putting the collard greens in my protein shakes. And i would wake up in the morning, goto the bathroom as usual, and then no gas!

Up until today. Yesterday i was back to putting kale and spinach in my protein shakes. It tastes so good. I love it. Then i wake up today, goto the bathroom, and once again the gas is back. After im done with the bathroom, you would think im cleansed, and then strangely the gas comes back intense as hell afterwards, and doesnt finally dissipate until 3 hours later. I didnt have this problem before either. But i need to get my vegetables in, and i know its important, and a big part of this battle!

Also have some bad news. Due to my checks being lower lately, i was at a lack of funds. I purchased 3 new herbs from lost empire herbs, and dropped alot of money on some other things i needed. Its been tough since the juice feast. It really set me back. The one and only thing i truly hate about this pfs battle, is the financial aspect, and the technicalities... running around everyday, especially on my days off, trying to get everything i need. My days off from work are actually harder than my days at work. Somethings not right here about this. I think its still the beginning and just going through the initial learning curve. This lack recent lack of funds, and a certain inconvenience, caused something negative for me.

So i have everything i need at the moment, but im tight until next week. I am however, almost out of magnesium powder, and completely out of spinurella and chlorella, and cant do anything about that until the end of the week. Then i will be in a surplus, and stay in the surplus for awhile. However, ive been a vape smoker for the longest time, and that broke. I fixed the problem, thought i was gonna be good, then a new problem with it came about. I lost my temper and smashed it on the ground. Im running around everyday like a chicken with its head cut off, and i cant take the trivial shit anymore. Theres only so much time in the day. I try to get everything in too! And when you fix ONE thing, then it seems like another thing breaks! Its a jynx, its trivial, and i do not have time for it. That led to me smoking a few more cigarettes than i would like to. It almost made me sick... you can feel it. I hate cigarettes, and theyre disgusting. The lack of funds forced me to grab some smokes. I finally got a new vape, and im learning how to maintain it better. I will never smoke a cig again, they made me feel awful this time around. Even as a vaper, i always packed a lip here and there, and it never hurt me. But when i had more than usual recently... omg i could feel it! I do not drink, smoke weed, take pharms, or do any other bad shit.

As far as THAT goes, i pray that i do not have to do another cleanse! Ive done two, and i have a job and cant keep doing these on the job.. its getting embarassing.

Im now cycling 12 herbs. Was at 9 for awhile. But the financial aspect has made it take more time for me to acquire them. The 3 new ones i have are He Shou Wu, Horny goat weed, and shilijit powder.

However, i responded really well to the horny goat weed powder, a few days ago!! Ironic... just like back in the day how Prolab horny goat weed capsules always worked well for me. They contained horny goat weed, tribulus, maca, yohimbine, and gingko bilopa. I have always responded really well to horny goat weed and maca. Even the horny goat weed powder, or the prolab horny goat weed capsules back in the day, wasnt strong enough to trigger a "spontaneous" erection, it still made me alot more powerful, and whenever i was hugging on a woman, i would get aroused much easier and much faster. But like with any proprietary blend, the prolab horny goat weed capsules always lost effect after while. 10 days or so.

But nothing new lately really. No spontaneous erections, and no new morning wood. Other guys seem to respond really well to the herbs, and get spontaneous erections, and morning wood, and stuff like that from them. But not me. Yet im 100% healthy in other ways, have this incredible physique, but just the propecia sex drive. I dont get it. Im doing the same stuff as them, and i dont get any of these benefits. I dont know what the hell to do anymore, lmao... im just gonna keep doing the protocol. Its all i have. And its the only thing that makes sense. A dude named brongfongboy years ago on propeciahelp reported getting morning wood all the time, and all these great benefits from a 14 day water fast alone. But of course not me, and ive juice feasted for a combined total of 23 days between two fasts. Who the fuck knows lmao... could it be because i took actual propecia, and not saw palmetto, and took it for a very long time, (almost 8 years on and off)? Once again, who the fuck knows anymore... I dont know if these people were luckier than me, or worse off than i am, or if im worse off than they are.

The weight is coming back much slower this time around. I may have even lost more weight than i reported. Each scale gives me a different number, and they are so inaccurate and frustrating sometimes. But its still going up, and im still progressing in the gym. I am one crazy, genetically gifted athlete. I dont know how i have pulled all this off despite pfs. And it honestly means nothing to me if i dont have a dick. But in my ideal world, i would take both!

I just pray that i dont have to do another fast. As long as i know that that will always be behind me, then i can stop worrying.

I honestly think my body just needs some DHT, in the form of super r andro. But i want to wait 2-3 months, get back to my tip top genetic natural stats, (because ive maxed out so many times in the last decade, and i already know what the stats and levels are for me).

[jjbradley2211]

Hey a lot of this is has to do with our stress levels and I don't think stressing yourself out looking at your sexual competency after 12 days is helping. You said you've made a lot of strides in other areas which is great. I'd continue looking at the positives and continue with the regiment.

Remember this is a marathon not a sprint.

[Durantia37]

I wouldn't worry so much about doing every little thing every day to the point of stressing yourself out. I used to do the same thing, but I think it's much better to just relax, do what you can do, and try to have a semi-normal life. I was TERRIBLE about stressing out over every detail, and would spend every second of every day analyzing everything I did. It didn't help or matter.

Don't openly sabotage yourself by smoking cigs, etc., but you don't have to have a panic attack if you don't have magnesium for a week.

I think everyone has those same fears you were describing. I've wished several times that I did Finasteride instead of saw palmetto and have worried that I had it worse than anyone ever has and won't ever get better, etc. etc. You just have to stop worrying. Easier said than done, but it makes a huge difference.

[biatch]

Hey come on man, 12 days... Nothing alse to say.
It needs time to get back and see results. Since my last crash, I had 3 and half months with zero, and I mean ZERO erections at ALL...ZERO,NEVER EVER EVER with porno, hands, "my girlfriend"...impossible!
Now I can get it up 90% of the time at a full power.. so give it the time needed....................................

[Maxout777]

I wouldn't worry so much about doing every little thing every day to the point of stressing yourself out. I used to do the same thing, but I think it's much better to just relax, do what you can do, and try to have a semi-normal life. I was TERRIBLE about stressing out over every detail, and would spend every second of every day analyzing everything I did. It didn't help or matter.

Don't openly sabotage yourself by smoking cigs, etc., but you don't have to have a panic attack if you don't have magnesium for a week.

I think everyone has those same fears you were describing. I've wished several times that I did Finasteride instead of saw palmetto and have worried that I had it worse than anyone ever has and won't ever get better, etc. etc. You just have to stop worrying. Easier said than done, but it makes a huge difference.

I used to do the same shit about taking Saw Palmetto and that I had it worse than anyone because Saw Palmetto could be worse than fin......lots of wasted nights.

[K8668B]

You guys are right. I had a much better day today, and now im looking at what i was saying yesterday, and thinking "what the hell WAS i thinking???!!!".

I've been told many times that i get in my own way, and my own head. I definitely need to stop. I kinda was like this before PFS, and it has intensified since having pfs. I may even continue to do it the whole time through too. Hopefully not, but well see. I definitely will be working on myself in that aspect as well.

Didnt do the kale/spinach in my protein shakes last night, and i woke up, didnt even goto the bathroom, but still, felt alot better. I think my body is finally starting to level out, and get used to eating again. Im sure the kale/spinach combo in my protein shakes is honestly irrelevant. I did have some today though. Each day, the "gas" seems to get a little less intense, so thats good!

The nicotine is out of my system, i already feel back to normal... no more! Still vaping here and there, but it doesn't hurt me. Working on that too.

Also, for years, followed a bodybuilidng diet, which was kind of somewhat paleo even then too (just with gluten and other chemicals), but also had a high calorie/high protein diet, which caused alot of gas. Still have a high calorie/protein diet, because protein is a muscle builder, but since the fast, i have eased back into it, and not gone as high, due to trying to not over work the digestive system! I learned that the cause of my former "non-24 sleep disorder", was due to fucking overeating and overworking the digestive system, and that would keep me awake longer!!!! Well ill be damned! Glad that sleep disorder is out of my life forever! I havent had that problem in about 4 months!! If i have to get up super early for work... i will make sure not to overwork my digestive system, the night before because that has almost screwed me over twice! Problem solved! I'm also a fan of short interminnet fasting for a few hours at time these days too. A good nights sleep is crucial for PFS, and for your adrenals. I've been mastering my own body in the last few months since discovering this protocol. A recent saying of mine lately has been, "if you can master your own self, then you can master the entire world!" Wow, its been a long decade... it all makes sense now. My suffering is finally coming to an end, little by little.

So im definitely leveling out since this fast. And moving in the right direction. It just took longer this time around, because i did a 15 day fast for god sakes. Not a 7 day. I underestimated it hahaha. I do not need to cleanse again. Everything i have done, and been doing, has definitely served purpose.

By the way, a tip that was told to me by either cdsnuts or the guys on the forum, when taking herbs.... Today was my cistanche day, and definitely put a tiny drop of water in your mouth, and literally hold your head back and just drop the whole scoop in your mouth. If you get a good hit, the powder will give the back of your mouth this slight burn sensation. then use another tiny gulp of water to help rinse it down if needed. This happened today, and i feel like when that happens, you get better absorption of the herb. I've noticed that with tongkat ali too. Horny goat weed powder is still my favorite though so far, hehe.

The thing with all of this protocol, and trying to get it all in, is that its a learning curve. You kind of just learn as you go, and the longer youve been doing it, the more you start to incorporate into it. Im not going to beat myself over the head anymore. Other pfs battlers, and pfs healed ones, can tell you how to do certain things, and youll get it, but other things, sometimes you can only learn them by just doing them on your own enough times.

Im not going to be talking about, or over-analyzing things like morning wood or spontaneous erections on a daily basis anymore. It is indeed pointless like alot of the guys have said to me. All i will be doing is keep doing the protocol as best as i can.

[K8668B]

This is going to be my last post in my blog for awhile. I just want to put out there exactly what im currently doing. I am cleansed and on the protocol.

Training in the gym 5-6 days a week.

Paleo diet

Carb backloading

Zero alcohol, zero weed, drugs, pharms, etc.

HIIT sprints 1-2 times a week. (a personal longtime goal with this is to keep shedding time off of my 100m dash. 10.99 seconds if im lucky haha. Why the fuck not? You can do whatever you set your mind to. The sky is the limit. In high school i was a distance runner, so sprints werent my thing. Now as an adult male, i have a chance to reach this longtime goal since im on the protocol. ) This shit is fun for me, and thrilling.

Cycling a herb each day. I have 12 at the moment, will continue to keep acquiring more. Had two little things of shilijit resin that i was cycling daily, which i loved, but they ran out quick. I want more. And i want to get my hands on pine pollen powder to use daily. and if i can afford a few more bottles of pine pollen tincture, i will just use that as a daily herb, and take that out of my 1-a-day-herb rotation, and replace it with something else. these take time due to finances.

Cold showers!!!- I love these! So easy to do, and so addictive! Invigorating, powerful, and an immediate testosterone boost and adrenaline rush! i feel that shit right away. I think the other day i actually stayed in the cold shower for at least 5 whole minutes! I feel like i could go on forever! Usually im in and out though, for about 2 or 3 minutes.

Vitamin d3 10,000 IU- 2-3x daily.

Magnesium calm powder- i love to throw this in my protein shakes, along with kale and spinach. it even makes the protein powder taste better. My protein powder of choice is either body fortress ( if my funds are limited), or more preferably, quest protein, or the one on cds website, if i can find that in target, or in a store.

Avoid gluten and soy like the plague, along with other poisonous shitty chemicals if i can. But dont beat myself over the head if i accidentally eat something bad once in a blue moon.

spinurella and chlorella daily.

breath work- such a good idea. i just finally tapped into this about a week ago. It was hard for me to understand, but im finally getting it. And boy is it good! I havent mastered it yet, but i will eventually with more practice.

Meditation- THIS IS A BIG ONE, and really important to me. You must calm your mind. Im still a little bit confused with this one. overtime i will figure it out. I want to learn and master this really soon.

Fish oils (essential fatty acids)- been looking for a good brand. Hopefully i can find someone who knows what theyre talking about at a vitamin shoppe or gnc, or a wholefoods store, and help me find a brand that does not contain soy, gluten, or estrogenic or negative chemicals in it.

bathmate pump- i really want to get one of these. When the funds come, i will acquire one.

avoiding xeno-estrogen chemicals like deodorants, soap, etc- ive been slacking on this one ill admit. seems like the only good stuff you can find are online. and extremely expensive to be paying for on a regular basis. This pfs battle is costly enough. What happens when i run out of the good products, and my online order is still waiting to be delivered?... if i go back to using regular stuff while waiting, will i lose such benefits immediately? I cant be having body odor and smelling like shit! I will figure this one out later. For some reason its complicated for me, and im probably making it out to be harder than what it really is.

its all one big learning curve.... i just learn shit as i go, and as time goes on, i incorporate more and more into it all.

prohormone- I am less than 3 months away from starting the super r andro prohormone. My first ever cycle. I will climb my "natural" ladder one last time, get to my tip top natural levels, one last time, and then finally start cycling. Ive already been on my way. As far as "natural" goes, i dont think any of us were ever natural, having pfs. myself and the rest of us, were all under-natural, and i believe when healed, we will all be natural for the first time EVER!

This is it for now, and its all i can think of. I will update later.

[K8668B]

Well!

Looks like i saw a slight glimpse of a light at the end of the tunnell. Finally started gaining some muscle weight back. Yesterday i decided i was hungrier, my metabolism had sped back up somewhat, and it had been awhile, so i stepped my calories and protein back up to their normal range.

So today i went in, benched 225x4, and 245x1. Now im still quite under my normal weight, and these numbers are nowhere near my normal range, but it was a good increase. normally when i hit 250 on bench for a 1RM, thats when i start to really go up i notice. that 245x1 for an all out effort was a major testosterone boost and felt so good.

The whole "gas" thing i was talking about earlier has went down alot, so thats good.

The only weird negative thing that has been happening, is that my body wont seem to let me sleep longer than 6-6 1/2 hours at a time! This strangely started happening since day 12 of my juice feast. Now its been about 15 days since i broke the fast. I think that could be just my eagerness to get out the door early in the morning, and get everything done. But at the same time, not good for the adrenals after a long time. Carb backloaded like crazy today, because i had 2 workouts, and i was hoping the early backload would help me take a nap, but i couldnt. Hopefully tonight i can sleep for a good 8.5 hrs uninterrupted.

Nothing new sexually yet. Ordering pine pollen powder on monday for everyday use, along with the 12 and growing number of herbs i have for daily rotation.



By the way... can someone recommend a legit, potent brand of tribulus so i can add to the rotation? I've heard alot of good about it, and it was also in those prolab horny goat weed capsules that i responded well too a long time ago.