Bizzbee's Trial with Androhard by MuscleGelz

[jacknap]

tribulus, ashwa, rhodiola, butea are top 7 for me. along with the one's u cited pine pollen, tongkat, mucana.

where you gunna get your prohormone from? it's down the line for me but I want to prepare cause I'm not sure it's gunna be easy to find a good source for Canada that's cdnuts approved...

[bizzbee]

Thanks for your suggestions. What brand of Butea Superba do you use? I am planning to go with IML's Super R Andro. It's the next best thing I suppose to the original Androhard from Primordial Performance.

tribulus, ashwa, rhodiola, butea are top 7 for me. along with the one's u cited pine pollen, tongkat, mucana.

where you gunna get your prohormone from? it's down the line for me but I want to prepare cause I'm not sure it's gunna be easy to find a good source for Canada that's cdnuts approved...

[Cdsnuts]

Ok. The bottle of leftover R-andro is probably too old. Chucked it. Next cycle I will just order a fresh batch. Ordered some extra herbs. Felt little to no suppression during 4-week cycle with Androhard by Muscle Gelz. Just a slight drop in libido. Would have continued but headaches returned and lethargy became intolerable. Anyone care to share what their favorite herbs are? This is what my herb lineup will look like :

1. Ant Extract
2. Black maca
3. Pine pollen powder and tincture
5. Cistanche
6. Lion's Mane
7. Mucuna
8. Tongkat Ali

If you'd like to make suggestions on some other herbs I'd be happy to consider. Also, if you consider the Toco caps to be a worthy addition to the PCT let me know. I will probably be looking at Toco from wicked supplements.

I would add in some adaptogens as well, such as Rhodiola, Eluthero and shilijat. He shou wu is another excellent herb I think you should add.

[jacknap]

there's a herb store in my city that has it, so it's not a brand. I would just go with what cdnuts says his recommendations are top notch. Gunna try that next.

I do respond to the herb stores butea like crazy. There was a thai guy who used it and boosted his DHT by 300%. It kinda feels similar to yohimbine to me...

Super R-Andro Rx IronMag Labs

Is this the one you're talking about?

[bizzbee]

Yes that's the one.

there's a herb store in my city that has it, so it's not a brand. I would just go with what cdnuts says his recommendations are top notch. Gunna try that next.

I do respond to the herb stores butea like crazy. There was a thai guy who used it and boosted his DHT by 300%. It kinda feels similar to yohimbine to me...

Super R-Andro Rx IronMag Labs

Is this the one you're talking about?

[bizzbee]

Thanks CD. I just want to be done with this. 14 years is enough. I'll take whatever. F*&$ it.

All the herbs listed above will be coming from Lost Empire.

I would add in some adaptogens as well, such as Rhodiola, Eluthero and shilijat. He shou wu is another excellent herb I think you should add.

[bizzbee]

My first cycle of DHT a few years back (ca. 2012-2013) caused suppression symptoms soon after taking my first few capsules. The fact that I have felt little to no suppression this time around is very encouraging. Wish I could have taken it for another 2 weeks, oh well maybe the next cycle will be different.

[Durantia37]

Thanks CD. I just want to be done with this. 14 years is enough. I'll take whatever. F*&$ it.

All the herbs listed above will be coming from Lost Empire.

Fourteen years? Christ, man.

My top five herbs (apart from pp powder and tincture):
-Suma
-Tribulus
-Tongkat
-Cistanche
-He Shou Wu

[bizzbee]

Well more like 10 years with PFS. Right now i have a mild form of PFS. Things started to really improve in 2013-2014 with just diet, exercise, and some herbs, a "lite" version of cdnuts' protocol. It was effective to some degree, but like the man said, you need to go all or none to truly recover. Thanks for the suggestions. I just ordered the Eleuthero and the Schisandra. No more f*$&ing around.

Fourteen years? Christ, man.

My top five herbs (apart from pp powder and tincture):
-Suma
-Tribulus
-Tongkat
-Cistanche
-He Shou Wu

[jacknap]

Well more like 10 years with PFS. Right now i have a mild form of PFS. Things started to really improve in 2013-2014 with just diet, exercise, and some herbs, a "lite" version of cdnuts' protocol. It was effective to some degree, but like the man said, you need to go all or none to truly recover. Thanks for the suggestions. I just ordered the Eleuthero and the Schisandra. No more f*$&ing around.

lol diet and exercise? wtf were u doing before you started doing that? lol