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    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post
    The mental clarity issue... Now you notice some "clarity", but when you didn't, was the "non-clarity" an issue, and were you aware of it? I wonder if I have some "brain-fog", and if one day I will be like, "wow, what a difference", after taking something.
    I was very aware of my brain fog and poor memory. It was one of the biggest reasons for starting TRT. If you have it to any degree, you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    I was very aware of my brain fog and poor memory. It was one of the biggest reasons for starting TRT. If you have it to any degree, you know it.
    Most days I feel great and don't really notice any type of brain-fog, but before I started using my cpap, oh hell yes I had brain-fog! The cpap machine has worked wonders for me though. Just checking off my list to see how ready or close I am to talking to a TRT doc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post
    Just checking off my list to see how ready or close I am to talking to a TRT doc...

    Pretty much all you have to do is get a blood test, bud. That tells most of the story right there. At your age, it's not likely what you need. It's a 50 year commitment. Don't enter into it lightly or without real cause. It's not the "holy grail" to making things better if you don't really need it.

    I have a friend who is now on TRT for the last 5 months. His levels were well within range (500+), but he went through an expensive TRT clinic to raise them. He pays them a lot of money to implant testosterone surgically about every 12 weeks. He spent a couple thousand to get the process started. I asked him tonight what changes he has seen. His answer: "Libido is higher than before, but I never had a problem with that anyway. I recomped a little. And I seem to be in a better mood."

    If it were me, I would be severely let down if that was the only difference. His results aren't remarkable because he didn't really need it. The same results he got could have come from a walk in the sunshine, a glass of wine, and a little more cardio.

    On the other side of things, I have a friend who tested at 200, uses the topical gel daily, and after 5 months of treatment he feels 35 instead of 45. It's pretty clear his levels warranted usage. His results confirm it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post
    before I started using my cpap, oh hell yes I had brain-fog! The cpap machine has worked wonders for me though.
    My friend lost 80 lbs and was able to get off his CPAP completely. I know one of your goals is to lean up. Maybe you can kill two birds with one stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    Pretty much all you have to do is get a blood test, bud. That tells most of the story right there. At your age, it's not likely what you need. It's a 50 year commitment. Don't enter into it lightly or without real cause. It's not the "holy grail" to making things better if you don't really need it.

    I have a friend who is now on TRT for the last 5 months. His levels were well within range (500+), but he went through an expensive TRT clinic to raise them. He pays them a lot of money to implant testosterone surgically about every 12 weeks. He spent a couple thousand to get the process started. I asked him tonight what changes he has seen. His answer: "Libido is higher than before, but I never had a problem with that anyway. I recomped a little. And I seem to be in a better mood."

    If it were me, I would be severely let down if that was the only difference. His results aren't remarkable because he didn't really need it. The same results he got could have come from a walk in the sunshine, a glass of wine, and a little more cardio.

    On the other side of things, I have a friend who tested at 200, uses the topical gel daily, and after 5 months of treatment he feels 35 instead of 45. It's pretty clear his levels warranted usage. His results confirm it.
    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    My friend lost 80 lbs and was able to get off his CPAP completely. I know one of your goals is to lean up. Maybe you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Damn... When you put it that way ( 50 year commitment ), it definetly makes me realize there is so much I have to look into. I'm just mentally getting everything lined up though, as I think in 4 years I may look more seriously into TRT ( I'll be 40 by then ). Yes, when I weighed 240lbs, my snoring was completely gone and I slept great. I plan on dropping below 240lbs as well.

    What do you think about running a low dose test cycle, ( thereputic dosage ), just to test the waters and see how big of a difference it could be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post

    What do you think about running a low dose test cycle, ( thereputic dosage ), just to test the waters and see how big of a difference it could be?
    I think you keep putting the cart before the horse. You are lining up things to be ready for trt before you've even had blood work done or are showing symptoms of andropause. Seriously, you either need to have some apparent signs of low test prior to seeing a doc about this who will then test you or you need to do bloodwork on your own to see if you should continue to entertain the idea of trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    I think you keep putting the cart before the horse. You are lining up things to be ready for trt before you've even had blood work done or are showing symptoms of andropause. Seriously, you either need to have some apparent signs of low test prior to seeing a doc about this who will then test you or you need to do bloodwork on your own to see if you should continue to entertain the idea of trt.

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    I'm just entertaining the idea of doing my first real cycle of aas, for overall condition purposes and jits. I figure I may see a big difference in overall well being and mood, which might suggest that I am getting closer to needing trt. To avoid confusion, i'm asking questions now about TRT, but I think realistically i'm 4 to 5 years away from actually asking a physician about it and getting tests done. That's what I mean when I talk about getting mentally ready for it- I tend to think far into the future for some things.

    When you say "apparent signs", I don't think i'm showing any real tell tale signs to pursue trt currently. I'll be getting bloodwork done this winter or spring, as i'm getting ready to run some type of assistance, but it's not for the purpose of finding out where I stand when it comes to trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post
    I'm just entertaining the idea of doing my first real cycle of aas, for overall condition purposes and jits. I figure I may see a big difference in overall well being and mood, which might suggest that I am getting closer to needing trt. To avoid confusion, i'm asking questions now about TRT, but I think realistically i'm 4 to 5 years away from actually asking a physician about it and getting tests done. That's what I mean when I talk about getting mentally ready for it- I tend to think far into the future for some things.

    When you say "apparent signs", I don't think i'm showing any real tell tale signs to pursue trt currently. I'll be getting bloodwork done this winter or spring, as i'm getting ready to run some type of assistance, but it's not for the purpose of finding out where I stand when it comes to trt.
    Finding out your baseline stats is the first step, whether you are looking at TRT or just running a cycle. I'm glad to hear you are planning to get that done since you are entertaining some AAS usage in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    Finding out your baseline stats is the first step, whether you are looking at TRT or just running a cycle. I'm glad to hear you are planning to get that done since you are entertaining some AAS usage in the future.
    I'll post what I find when I do, and as always, i'll appreciate your feedback.

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