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CSM25
I definitely really liked it. However, I'm prone to agitation. SO, it helped balance DHT's crushing of estrogen. AND* my estrogen was low. So I needed both, otherwise was very stiff. R-andro was good even very good, but unsustainable for me, without 4andro. I took moderate, and sometimes high doses of each. In the end, I took microdoses of both and it worked very well (but that was post a 49 and 33 day cycle, and PCT, so lots of LBM had been gained. And hormone levels had changed). I was using it for PFS. I like them, but I think R-andro kind of makes me more prone to fighting, agitation, being angry, etc. 4andro felt euphoric at times. Both were good, but cannot last forever (in my experience). Like nearly any drug/substance, cycling on and off can help curtail negative effects. No real suppression for me, but I did run Kingsblood and TMO herbs (megadosed 4-6 at a time) after, for cycle length plus 2-4 weeks.
I can't exactly explain why, but I think rather than high DHT med test, I need med- high T and that should be a bit higher than DHT. Whatever, I am working on balancing things right now, with something called TEI (turned back on a lot of muscle pump sensation, but not entirely). I overtrained a lot whenever I worked out most of the last 10-12+ years. But this year, I was doing crazy things, like 500-600 reps a workout, 6-7d a week. I gained a lot of muscle, now taking it easier, keeping time in gym short, and just working on work and stuff. They had their place tho for sure, and I will likely microdose them again later. Sexual gains on both (probably with both it was synergistic). Actually, I liked PCT better at times, kingsblood. -possibly psychologically as well, as I could actually cut whereas R-A and 4-A made me hungry like hell. Which is good for a time anyways.