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    I'm at the point now where life is pretty much livable. Ten months post crash, seven months on protocol. I'm genuinely enjoying life for the first time in what feels like forever. Seven months ago I could barely leave the house due to massive anxiety and brain fog. Hopefully that inspires some of the newcomers to just stay on the path.

    However, I still have that anxiousness about possibly making myself worse. I have to remind myself quite often that as long as I keep on keeping on with the protocol, I'll continue to improve, not worsen. And even though I know this to be true from experience, I STILL get these feelings. It's like my mind's playing tricks on me.

    I can see myself being at least 90% recovered after two more cycles at the most, and it's a great feeling.
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    So glad to hear you're improving! I'm sorry but I wasn't able to find the post where you explained what you were cycling? Some sort of prohormone? I looked at cdnut's website (TMO) and could not find any protocol related to a pro-hormone.

    I am interested because I have made significant improvement myself since taking the drug back in 2011. When I first started, there was no known protocols aside from one guy who recovered on RAW/paleo with HIT-style weightlifting. I followed that protocol for sometime and made decent progress. But these days I still feel something is lacking, I don't have as much energy as my peers and counterparts, and I often suffer from anxiety. I also have some neuropathic pain and joint pain.

    Anything you could recommend would be of value. Your quick recovery is very heartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    So glad to hear you're improving! I'm sorry but I wasn't able to find the post where you explained what you were cycling? Some sort of prohormone? I looked at cdnut's website (TMO) and could not find any protocol related to a pro-hormone.

    I am interested because I have made significant improvement myself since taking the drug back in 2011. When I first started, there was no known protocols aside from one guy who recovered on RAW/paleo with HIT-style weightlifting. I followed that protocol for sometime and made decent progress. But these days I still feel something is lacking, I don't have as much energy as my peers and counterparts, and I often suffer from anxiety. I also have some neuropathic pain and joint pain.

    Anything you could recommend would be of value. Your quick recovery is very heartening.
    It's a DHT prohormone called Androhard by Musclegelz. All the information about prohormones is in a sticky post on this forum.

    Best advice I can give you is to just make the protocol your way of life and keep following it. It's a double edged sword though because since the protocol is just how I live my life, I don't even feel like I'm "doing" anything to recover. It causes me to second guess everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    It's a DHT prohormone called Androhard by Musclegelz. All the information about prohormones is in a sticky post on this forum.

    Best advice I can give you is to just make the protocol your way of life and keep following it. It's a double edged sword though because since the protocol is just how I live my life, I don't even feel like I'm "doing" anything to recover. It causes me to second guess everything.
    Thanks for the reply! Hmm I can't seem to find the sticky, I'll keep looking though.

    Has this helped you with anxiety/panic attacks? These are the only symptoms that are really still stuck with me.

    Upon searching for the product, the active in it appears to be androsterone. I have tried idealab's androsterone before, and I remember it working quite well for the first few days. It gave me a big masculine energy as well as better libido. The problem I had with it was that eventually it made me feel tired and emotionless, and my joints hurt as well. I think that was because it was inhibiting estrogen too much.

    Anyways, maybe this version would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    Thanks for the reply! Hmm I can't seem to find the sticky, I'll keep looking though.

    Has this helped you with anxiety/panic attacks? These are the only symptoms that are really still stuck with me.

    Upon searching for the product, the active in it appears to be androsterone. I have tried idealab's androsterone before, and I remember it working quite well for the first few days. It gave me a big masculine energy as well as better libido. The problem I had with it was that eventually it made me feel tired and emotionless, and my joints hurt as well. I think that was because it was inhibiting estrogen too much.

    Anyways, maybe this version would be better.
    I only had panic attacks in the first few months of PFS, never after that. My first cycle really helped with the anxiety tough, so I'd definitely give it a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    I only had panic attacks in the first few months of PFS, never after that. My first cycle really helped with the anxiety tough, so I'd definitely give it a shot.
    Alright then I think I will give it a shot. I ordered a bottle of Androhard. I have been taking a lot of thyroid hormone and caffeine which I am currently weening off of. Anxiety is rough, though.

    Anything else I should know before I start? Did the juice cleanse help much?

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