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    Quick update here. I've been following the protocol to the best of my ability and have been doing OK -- only thing off is libido and sensitivity.

    I spoke to a naturopath about the protocol and herb rotation and he completely agreed with every aspect except one. He thinks rotating the herbs renders them less effective. Instead, he recommends the following protocol of daily herb intake for three weeks on and one week off.

    I don't know if he's right or wrong but wanted to gauge the group on what he suggested as an alternative to the more typical herb rotation.

    His recommendation

    Pine Pollen 1 tbsp twice daily
    Cordyceps 1 gram 3 times per day
    Horny Goat Weed 2grams twice daily
    Mucuna 1 gram twice daily
    Maca 1tbsp twice per day
    Schisandra 1 gram twice daily
    Goji 1 tbsp twice daily
    Rhodiola 1 capsule (500mg) twice daily for the first 5 days of each cycle, then 1 capsule daily for the remainder of each cycle.
    Iodine 1 capsule daily
    Pine Pollen Tincture 30 drops twice per day for 5 days then take 2 days off.
    Royal Jelly 1 capsule twice daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sd123 View Post
    Quick update here. I've been following the protocol to the best of my ability and have been doing OK -- only thing off is libido and sensitivity.

    I spoke to a naturopath about the protocol and herb rotation and he completely agreed with every aspect except one. He thinks rotating the herbs renders them less effective. Instead, he recommends the following protocol of daily herb intake for three weeks on and one week off.

    I don't know if he's right or wrong but wanted to gauge the group on what he suggested as an alternative to the more typical herb rotation.

    His recommendation

    Pine Pollen 1 tbsp twice daily
    Cordyceps 1 gram 3 times per day
    Horny Goat Weed 2grams twice daily
    Mucuna 1 gram twice daily
    Maca 1tbsp twice per day
    Schisandra 1 gram twice daily
    Goji 1 tbsp twice daily
    Rhodiola 1 capsule (500mg) twice daily for the first 5 days of each cycle, then 1 capsule daily for the remainder of each cycle.
    Iodine 1 capsule daily
    Pine Pollen Tincture 30 drops twice per day for 5 days then take 2 days off.
    Royal Jelly 1 capsule twice daily
    Just do the herb rotation as instructed on TMO. No need to reinvent the wheel. The protocol here works fantastically, but only if you do it 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sd123 View Post
    Quick update here. I've been following the protocol to the best of my ability and have been doing OK -- only thing off is libido and sensitivity.

    I spoke to a naturopath about the protocol and herb rotation and he completely agreed with every aspect except one. He thinks rotating the herbs renders them less effective. Instead, he recommends the following protocol of daily herb intake for three weeks on and one week off.

    I don't know if he's right or wrong but wanted to gauge the group on what he suggested as an alternative to the more typical herb rotation.

    His recommendation

    Pine Pollen 1 tbsp twice daily
    Cordyceps 1 gram 3 times per day
    Horny Goat Weed 2grams twice daily
    Mucuna 1 gram twice daily
    Maca 1tbsp twice per day
    Schisandra 1 gram twice daily
    Goji 1 tbsp twice daily
    Rhodiola 1 capsule (500mg) twice daily for the first 5 days of each cycle, then 1 capsule daily for the remainder of each cycle.
    Iodine 1 capsule daily
    Pine Pollen Tincture 30 drops twice per day for 5 days then take 2 days off.
    Royal Jelly 1 capsule twice daily
    I understand where he is coming from as in herbalism most herbs work best when taken for a period of time. NOT THESE. This is set up specifically so that there is no tolerance build up. The way it is listed on TMO is the best way to take those specific herbs when it comes to manipulating hormones. I would hate to see you follow that approach and build a tolerance to half your herb stock. Pointless.

    Follow TMO if you want to recover. Don't reinvent the wheel. We have all been there done that. Do yourself a favor, and do what works. PFS is beyond most naturopaths scope of knowledge. Here is a different story. This is what WE do here.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I understand where he is coming from as in herbalism most herbs work best when taken for a period of time. NOT THESE. This is set up specifically so that there is no tolerance build up. The way it is listed on TMO is the best way to take those specific herbs when it comes to manipulating hormones. I would hate to see you follow that approach and build a tolerance to half your herb stock. Pointless.

    Follow TMO if you want to recover. Don't reinvent the wheel. We have all been there done that. Do yourself a favor, and do what works. PFS is beyond most naturopaths scope of knowledge. Here is a different story. This is what WE do here.
    Got it - thanks for the feedback. That naturopath was an asshole anyway

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