Noir King's Recovery Log

[lastnoirking87]

IML Super R Andro Rx capsules were very popular on this forum years back. Ironmag Labs discontinued the capsules and have since made the formula Transdermal: IML Super R-Andro Cream which is still available.

Unfortunately Iconic Formulations Alpha Four has been discontinued for about a year now. Rob(Owner of IF as well as this forum) told me that it was due to licensing patents that another company held for the active(4andro). Alpha4 is sold out now at all 3rd party sellers that I’ve seen. I was lucky that Rob had some Alpha Gainz 4-Andro stashed away that I was able to pick up, but he told me it was the last of it a few months ago.

You can still get 4-Andro from a few other companies. Ironmag Labs has Super 4-Andro Cream, I’ve heard their products are legit, but I’ve never tried myself so can’t fully vouch.

4-Andro converts to testosterone which can aromatize into Estrogen. Unlike Epiandrosterone and Androsterone which are the actives in UltraHard and only covert to DHT. Hence using them together helps to not crush your estrogen, but then you have to be careful your Estrogen doesn’t raise to high(I know this from experience unfortunately haha). Would recommend a blood test before hand to see where your levels are at.

Sorry to crash your thread dude. I’ve been dying to talk about something fun on here for once lol. If you guys have any PH questions I’d be happy to do my best to answer. Or if you want more reading on PH’s besides here, than I recommend Anabolic Minds forum.

No need to apologize. I appreciate all the up to date info about the PHs. I haven't looked into any of them in 1.5 years, so didn't even realize alpha four was done. Damn this landscape changes a lot! Anyway, yes, a blood test to see where my estrogen is first would be necessary for me to undertake an UH cycle with peace of mind. If it turned out I was low to begin with, then I wouldn't be able to proceed 🤷‍♂️ my anxiety would just spoil whatever benefit I might get.
I guess my total confidence and comfort with the herbs, and resulting total lack of anxiety surrounding their mechanisms of action and/or effects, is partly responsible for my progress thus far.

[Zerolibido]

If you can't getta fuck IN hard on to her
You probably have

Post finasterude syndrome

[lastnoirking87]

Oh I'll definitely be posting more often now. Going to be starting a legal job in Autumn (my first real job), so I'm thinking with that I'm going to go back onto the full protocol, and try to optimise in all walks of life: health, career, relationships etc.

Really feel that I can use this as the starting point to doing some great things in the future, and for that I need to be in the very best shape possible, physically and mentally.

Congrats on your professional success. Your trials with beating PFS is like an almost mythical-proportion wellspring of experience that can be used to guide you to ever greater heights in this life. Sometimes I am totally speechless when I think about the incomparable lessons and progress in every facet of my life that have already been gained over the last 1.5 years. It is my greatest ambition at the moment to get to precisely where you are, at the far side of this, with its corpse lying behind you, to unlock further levels of self knowledge and mastery by continuing with this lifestyle thereafter.

[MungYarlon]

IML Super R Andro Rx capsules were very popular on this forum years back. Ironmag Labs discontinued the capsules and have since made the formula Transdermal: IML Super R-Andro Cream which is still available.

Unfortunately Iconic Formulations Alpha Four has been discontinued for about a year now. Rob(Owner of IF as well as this forum) told me that it was due to licensing patents that another company held for the active(4andro). Alpha4 is sold out now at all 3rd party sellers that I’ve seen. I was lucky that Rob had some Alpha Gainz 4-Andro stashed away that I was able to pick up, but he told me it was the last of it a few months ago.

You can still get 4-Andro from a few other companies. Ironmag Labs has Super 4-Andro Cream, I’ve heard their products are legit, but I’ve never tried myself so can’t fully vouch.

4-Andro converts to testosterone which can aromatize into Estrogen. Unlike Epiandrosterone and Androsterone which are the actives in UltraHard and only covert to DHT. Hence using them together helps to not crush your estrogen, but then you have to be careful your Estrogen doesn’t raise to high(I know this from experience unfortunately haha). Would recommend a blood test before hand to see where your levels are at.

Sorry to crash your thread dude. I’ve been dying to talk about something fun on here for once lol. If you guys have any PH questions I’d be happy to do my best to answer. Or if you want more reading on PH’s besides here, than I recommend Anabolic Minds forum.

I'll shop around for some 4-andro when I start my cycle. I'm going to restart the protocol completely though so that I can get the best effects. Will aim for January or February time.

[MileyCrabz]

I'll shop around for some 4-andro when I start my cycle. I'm going to restart the protocol completely though so that I can get the best effects. Will aim for January or February time.

Smart move restarting protocol pre cycle. 4-Andro is great if you’re looking to put some size on, gains are more wet. Does make for a bigger chance of sides/suppression though, but still fairly safe for most especially when compared to actual AAS. Stacks great with an Androsterone product like Ultrahard or Super R-Andro for a nice lean bulk.

Rob also told me they are working on a new product and trying to possibly get around the patents on 4-Andro. Might have something new out for when you’re looking to cycle. Here's hoping!

[Zerolibido]

Interesting you tell him to get blood tests as Mr nuts where. Advised that anywhere

[lastnoirking87]

No need to apologize. I appreciate all the up to date info about the PHs. I haven't looked into any of them in 1.5 years, so didn't even realize alpha four was done. Damn this landscape changes a lot! Anyway, yes, a blood test to see where my estrogen is first would be necessary for me to undertake an UH cycle with peace of mind. If it turned out I was low to begin with, then I wouldn't be able to proceed 🤷‍♂️ my anxiety would just spoil whatever benefit I might get.
I guess my total confidence and comfort with the herbs, and resulting total lack of anxiety surrounding their mechanisms of action and/or effects, is partly responsible for my progress thus far.

Also, for some context, I hold very little body fat and have to eat like a psycho to put on weight while lifting and doing the sprints as per the tmo protocol. Even then, if I let my foot off the pedal for a few days with the eating, I can see my body stating to slim down. Additionally, I have noticed oftentimes at the peak of my upswings, when I figure my test is very high, that I'll have a day or two where I can get emotional fairly easily. I suspect this is from my high test being aromatized, which is fine and dandy, but the thing is that I don't often feel like this at all. It is a VERY unusual feeling for me to experience that sort of emotionality. The long in the short of it is, if my E isn't average, I feel it must be pretty low on any given day.

[Zerolibido]

Jew thinking should ducking kill myself?

[LetsGo]

Jew thinking should ducking kill myself?

I am Catholic, not Jewish, and I don’t know very much about ducks.

[Zerolibido]

You've shot up in my estimations.