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    Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
    Strykers, one final thing from me, When you start with the paleo diet, exercise, mind stuff etc. just go easy on yourself. What i mean is be kind to yourself, and don't get despondent because you did something wrong or whatever. It is extremely difficult to suddenly go paleo or organic etc. and it creates a stress of its own, for this reason, i recommend you ease into the process, perfecting things here and there as you go.
    For me, it took months to gain the strength and discipline to lead a virtually perfect lifestyle - now i enjoy it - and you can't just get there overnight, not without creating so much stress that it counteracts what you are doing.
    Remember, all those supplements, exercise, diet etc. will raise T in a normal healthy and happy individual by maybe 30 or 40% max over the long term. So from 550 to 750 (would probably be typical) which is great and can make them love life rather than just liking it, but subject that same person to prolonged and severe stress, and their T levels will always plummet to around 300. This happens both from stress of the mind, as well as stress from chronic over exercising, as evidenced by the many cases of transient secondary hypogonadism that doctors deal with in distance runners.
    So do the regimen by all means, but do it while focusing number one (by a mile) on healing your mind.
    i've eaten pretty healthy for the past 10 years. after this experience started, i've been stress eating like no other. it will be nice to eat healthy again and slim down. paleo is pretty intense though. you can't even eat peanuts or whole wheat lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by strykers12 View Post
    i've eaten pretty healthy for the past 10 years. after this experience started, i've been stress eating like no other. it will be nice to eat healthy again and slim down. paleo is pretty intense though. you can't even eat peanuts or whole wheat lol
    Don't sweat it to much. I'm not 100% sure but paleo isn't necessary, I don't do it myself. Food quality is very important though. As for wheat etc, on my carbnites I just slay all of the carbs. Check out "scope75"s log here. His food is top notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strykers12 View Post
    i've eaten pretty healthy for the past 10 years. after this experience started, i've been stress eating like no other. it will be nice to eat healthy again and slim down. paleo is pretty intense though. you can't even eat peanuts or whole wheat lol
    Yep, i was in the middle of writing the same kinda reply as Entropy, i agree, cd didn't eat strict paleo either. Cut out refined sugar and simple carbs, replace with complex carbs. Go gluten free and eat loads of quality saturated animal fat and protein. It is a gluten free paleo type diet you should go for. By the way, even those recommending strict paleo diets argue of what is paleo - are eggs allowed etc? - you wanna eat lots of eggs by the way

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    Saturated fat is your friend.

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    I would obviously recommend gluten free even if you're not celiac. Alot of people have some sort of intolerance to it and don't even know it until they omit it from their diet.
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    What do you reckon to lactose free milk and cream? I've been having this since i first noticed it on the shelves maybe 2 months ago. Lactose is supposed to be hard to tolerate, so they just add the lactase enzyme which gets rid of it. The products taste great, and the whole milk versions are quite high in saturated fats, hence it's good for T.
    Because it contains the lactase enzyme, you should never develop a lactose intolerence either.
    I drink shit loads of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
    What do you reckon to lactose free milk and cream? I've been having this since i first noticed it on the shelves maybe 2 months ago. Lactose is supposed to be hard to tolerate, so they just add the lactase enzyme which gets rid of it. The products taste great, and the whole milk versions are quite high in saturated fats, hence it's good for T.
    Because it contains the lactase enzyme, you should never develop a lactose intolerence either.
    I drink shit loads of it.
    Milk is one of those things where you either tolerate it or you don't whereas gluten sensitivity has shades of gray. I have no problem with dairy, I just choose not to drink milk because I think it's disgusting. Now concentrate that disgusting milk into cheese, and I'm all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Milk is one of those things where you either tolerate it or you don't whereas gluten sensitivity has shades of gray. I have no problem with dairy, I just choose not to drink milk because I think it's disgusting. Now concentrate that disgusting milk into cheese, and I'm all in.
    Yeah i'm eering on the side of caution by cutting out both gluten and lactose (not completely but 99%) even though i never had a problem with either before all the issues and maybe still don't now. I appear to have replaced alcohol with milk, and find myself looking forward to getting home to have a cold pint of milk! - weird.

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