Clomid Reboot

[Macdon1588]

You should have tested your rat before starting clomid restart protocol, as if he has some other underlying issues like underactive thyroid or adrenals it should be addressed first.
Add some mixed nuts to your rats diet (they do same thing as tocco-8), include some DAA. After 3 months of clomid+AI start tappering down clomid for couple of weeks, but keep exemestane at same level, and run exemestane for 2 weeks after stopping clomid.
Than after 8 weeks do blood tests.
Its also very important to avoid stress as much as possible, and to have a good sleep. Sleep is no 1 priority, no good sleep no good hormone levels.

Thank you for your input. I did test his bloods and the thyroid looks good. I concede that adrenals should be tested, but if I read right, a clomid reboot might shed a light indirectly on an adrenal issue if it is not successful. Plus the rat is trying to knock up his wife so top priority is on fertility right now.

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

Thank you for your input. I did test his bloods and the thyroid looks good. I concede that adrenals should be tested, but if I read right, a clomid reboot might shed a light indirectly on an adrenal issue if it is not successful. Plus the rat is trying to knock up his wife so top priority is on fertility right now.

That's very responsible. I would assume junk issues after aas use are almost certainly related to that usage, and probably wouldn't be so thorough.

[szary]

to knock up his wife so top priority is on fertility right now.

You should then check some research on levodopa especially as extract powder from mucuna , there is also some data on superiority of low grade exctracts probably because they contain more catechins and polyphenols that interact with maoB and COMT to increase effect of levodopa. There is a sale of BPS Endosurge on one of the SwoleSource sponsor's websites - socal-nutrition.com. Also I wouldn't be so sure of effects of clomiphene citrate (I'm not sure what you are taking) on sperm production - the company which wanted to market analogue of clomiphene as cure for male hypogonadism got battering on Nasdaq after delaying 3rd stage tests once more time ( No results?)this whole thing originated in 1970's(when clomiphen underperformed tamoxiphen in breast cancer treatment tests and since then there was no solid evidence published.One more advise from the world of injectable SAA - Hcg - didn't you try that? If you get more than 500IU even your testicles hurt - It make them bigger / force them to produce more sperm.Just try to help

[Macdon1588]

Thank you for the post. I'm using clomid to raise testosterone on the strength of a few articles where there has been success. I haven't used HCG as I don't have access to it and haven't researched it for my goals.

[Macdon1588]

Not sure if my last post went through but I thank you for the post.

[szary]

Thank you for the post. I'm using clomid to raise testosterone on the strength of a few articles where there has been success. I haven't used HCG as I don't have access to it and haven't researched it for my goals.

You should beware of any claims that clomid interact with hypogonadism as it could be related to that company public relation - As i told you there was nothing interesting for 30 years on that subject and then when you add some money from stock exchange investors - voila - you get interest and "solid " data.Clomiphene citrate is also higher in reactivity because of chlorine atom and reactivity means carcinogenic so your rat may end up with some tumors.Hcg is commonly prescribed in central Europe(my place) for male hypogonadism,

[Jelisej]

You should beware of any claims that clomid interact with hypogonadism as it could be related to that company public relation - As i told you there was nothing interesting for 30 years on that subject and then when you add some money from stock exchange investors - voila - you get interest and "solid " data.Clomiphene citrate is also higher in reactivity because of chlorine atom and reactivity means carcinogenic so your rat may end up with some tumors.Hcg is commonly prescribed in central Europe(my place) for male hypogonadism,

There is a lot of solid data on clomid, and lot of reports from people. Obviously "restart" protocol does not work for everyone, but in his age (early 30's) he would have a good chance (if his endocrine system works good as whole).
I beleive that he is trying to raise LH and FSH mainly, so clomid is good enough for that, HCG also can be used sometimes when people want to make their wife pregnant but that includes injecting of very high doses of HCG, which can have downsides.

BTW, I guess you are Polish, as in majority of Europe HCG is not well known and I always tought that Polish BB's are quite advanced in some fields, and Poles are known for getting big results for small amounts of money.

[szary]

There is a lot of solid data on clomid, and lot of reports from people. Obviously "restart" protocol does not work for everyone, but in his age (early 30's) he would have a good chance (if his endocrine system works good as whole).
I beleive that he is trying to raise LH and FSH mainly, so clomid is good enough for that, HCG also can be used sometimes when people want to make their wife pregnant but that includes injecting of very high doses of HCG, which can have downsides.

BTW, I guess you are Polish, as in majority of Europe HCG is not well known and I always tought that Polish BB's are quite advanced in some fields, and Poles are known for getting big results for small amounts of money.

Thanks for feedback about HCG - (it binds to FSH receptors)in Poland you can get 5000IU just for wide smile to young pharmacy worker - it will cost you 20 USD or if you got prescription 4 USD, The claims about ineffectiveness of clomiphene are also from long lasting polish bodybulding experience , Just to state the obvious most praises for clomiphene is PURE BROSCIENCE not ACTUAL SCIENCE

[Jelisej]

Thanks for feedback about HCG - (it binds to FSH receptors)in Poland you can get 5000IU just for wide smile to young pharmacy worker - it will cost you 20 USD or if you got prescription 4 USD, The claims about ineffectiveness of clomiphene are also from long lasting polish bodybulding experience , Just to state the obvious most praises for clomiphene is PURE BROSCIENCE not ACTUAL SCIENCE

This part surprises me, as I dont have doubts about knowledge and experience of Polish BB community, but I've personaly seen few bloodworks that showed increase in t. testosterone, though I would agree that at the moment clomid is given way too much credit- its ok for "restart" where it works in 1/3 of cases (my own estimation)- in any other respect HCG is far superior and is very much undervalued and not given full credit.

[szary]

This part surprises me, as I dont have doubts about knowledge and experience of Polish BB community, but I've personaly seen few bloodworks that showed increase in t. testosterone, though I would agree that at the moment clomid is given way too much credit- its ok for "restart" where it works in 1/3 of cases (my own estimation)- in any other respect HCG is far superior and is very much undervalued and not given full credit.

If you search for tamoxifen and testosterone/androgene increase there are also evidence of some "broscience " on that, But in the end the dosing is lower, it is documented that it affect brain (I don't know about function of estrogen receptors in brain but they are there) and has limited toxicity , reactivity, also on that last statement reactivity means that the number of receptors currently blocked by tamoxifen fluctuate less intensly than the same value in clomiphene treated rat. Either way tamoxifen is better even for hypogonadism.