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    Hey guys,

    Bit of an update here. This week hasn't been so great. It's been very difficult to focus on anything and my memory hasn't been great. It's led to some long fights with my girlfriend that I haven't been able to completely follow, which just frustrating both me and her. My sleep also isn't as good, despite the fact I had a few really great initial few days on Glycine.

    Also lost some sensitivity in my junk compared to last week and I'm feeling more lethargic. Honestly, this has all been very frustrating. I haven't been taking my 5A-DHP as much (I keep forgetting to), so it's possible that's been a factor. I've been on a stricter nofap than usual, so for the last week and a half I haven't gotten off at all. I also starting taking Glycine at night last week. A few days ago, I also added 3 teaspoons of Pine Pollen at night into my regimen.

    It's also worth noting that my diet wasn't great last weekend. I ate some snacks at a party (two slices of pizza and half a donut), so I suppose it's possible that the sugar stressed out my system. If that's the case, do I need to do another cleanse? Should I spend some time off the herbs and start a new cycle in a few weeks? Is it possible I'm going to reach a new baseline and this is just me feeling worse beforehand?

    It's been a frustrating few days. Any help would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mal View Post
    Hey guys,

    Bit of an update here. This week hasn't been so great. It's been very difficult to focus on anything and my memory hasn't been great. It's led to some long fights with my girlfriend that I haven't been able to completely follow, which just frustrating both me and her. My sleep also isn't as good, despite the fact I had a few really great initial few days on Glycine.

    Also lost some sensitivity in my junk compared to last week and I'm feeling more lethargic. Honestly, this has all been very frustrating. I haven't been taking my 5A-DHP as much (I keep forgetting to), so it's possible that's been a factor. I've been on a stricter nofap than usual, so for the last week and a half I haven't gotten off at all. I also starting taking Glycine at night last week. A few days ago, I also added 3 teaspoons of Pine Pollen at night into my regimen.

    It's also worth noting that my diet wasn't great last weekend. I ate some snacks at a party (two slices of pizza and half a donut), so I suppose it's possible that the sugar stressed out my system. If that's the case, do I need to do another cleanse? Should I spend some time off the herbs and start a new cycle in a few weeks? Is it possible I'm going to reach a new baseline and this is just me feeling worse beforehand?

    It's been a frustrating few days. Any help would be appreciated.
    I don't think you need to do another cleanse, personally. I'm also willing to bet the lethargy and bad feeling in general is coming from the gluten in the pizza and donut moreso than the sugar. The sugar definitely doesn't help, but gluten is your worst enemy at this stage.

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    Alright, guys. Good news. Talked to my doctor and I'm gonna start weening off the Wellbutrin. The bad news is it'll take about three months to completely kick it, but you never wanna drop something like an anti-depressant cold turkey. Until then, I'll keep up good diet, cold showers, exercise, and meditation. I just added shower brushing to the regimen as well and I've really been enjoying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mal View Post
    Alright, guys. Good news. Talked to my doctor and I'm gonna start weening off the Wellbutrin. The bad news is it'll take about three months to completely kick it, but you never wanna drop something like an anti-depressant cold turkey. Until then, I'll keep up good diet, cold showers, exercise, and meditation. I just added shower brushing to the regimen as well and I've really been enjoying it.
    I know it's very superficial, but you will notice a huge difference in your skin quality after only a week or so of skin brushing. Great news on the wellbutrin.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I know it's very superficial, but you will notice a huge difference in your skin quality after only a week or so of skin brushing. Great news on the wellbutrin.
    Can't wait! I also got a bathmate and started pumping too. It's been... an interesting experience thus far.

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    Cd why do I keep having sudden crashes? I’m good for a couple of months and then bam I’m emotional and feel WEIRD. Is it cause I fall off the wagon with diet and supplements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queens1984 View Post
    Cd why do I keep having sudden crashes? I’m good for a couple of months and then bam I’m emotional and feel WEIRD. Is it cause I fall off the wagon with diet and supplements?
    Unless I know everything you do on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, that's a very difficult question to answer as there are so many variables. It sounds like YOU know the answer....You just said "Is it cause I fall off the wagon with diet and supplements?"

    The answer can be, yes. You need to stay the course 100% for an undetermined amount of time...6mo's - 2 yrs generally. Not doing this will results in yo-yo-ing results and a longer healing time.

    That, AND, there is a natural healing cycle that bounces from great to shitty over the course of your healing journey. In order to keep that as minimal as you can, you NEED to stay as solid as you can with your schedule....when you take your herbs, when and how you work out, dieting, etc. Even when these are dialed in, you're STILL going to have great days, and bad days. The difference is the longer you stay on the protocol, the longer your good stretches will be and the shorter your bad ones will get.

    CONSITENCY + TIME = RESULTS.
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    Thankyou for responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queens1984 View Post
    Cd why do I keep having sudden crashes? I’m good for a couple of months and then bam I’m emotional and feel WEIRD. Is it cause I fall off the wagon with diet and supplements?
    Unfortunately this is a time when you'll have to be more vigilant than usual. My worst crash during my recovery came when I was couch surfing and I used a keto shampoo. I was knocked on my ass for weeks. Luckily an R-Andro cycle righted the ship.

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    Yea it just don’t make sense. I agree with you 100 percent, it’s just I go from feeling pretty good 2 feeling not even like a MAN, anymore. I can’t explain it. I’m just going 2 stay strict with my diet, cold showers and supplements. Got 2 stay STRONG...

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