Timing of Supplements

[Trump_1776]

I take one herb twice a day.

[RickTheRuler]

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

Maybe you have to ride through it.. the body is most likely fixing things behind the scenes. Recovery is not peaches and cream. Yeah it gets better gradually but for that to happen you gotta stick through the uncomfortable moments..
I always tell myself whenever theres a change negative or positive it’s a good thing.. it means the body is reacting to the protocol, fixing itself, sorting shit out. It’s sorting out chemicals and hormones, all these affect how we feel in that moment.. so a reaction is a good thing, most of the time.

Also, you can tell the difference between a legit crash setback & just downswings.

For me every time I incorporate something new that benefits Test, HGH etc., I feel uncomfortable but then a few weeks later I feel better than ever. Your body rejects things at first & then benefits from it later in the PFS state..it’s weird.

But all that is easier said than done, that’s where the trust & sticking through it comes in, which imo is the hardest part about recovering. If it was just you getting better over time without downswings it’d be a walk in the park cause it won’t make you constantly think and doubt yourself. Even when you get better the downswings may not be so bad, maybe your a little out of it, not as horny, etc.. but it’s STILL annoying, and it still makes you question yourself and what your doing. Easy for me to explain everything till you’re in that place.

Anyway, what do you mean when you say emotional? Just a feeling of angst? Crying?

You’ve been on this longer than me.


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[Trump_1776]

Yeah I get all that. I feel pretty good now. 90% consistently, I just notice when I go on certain test boosters that I get emotional most likely from aromatization. Today was my avena sativa day and it's faring well at a smaller dose. Workouts have been great.

Thanks for the input bruv.

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Yeah my DHT recovered after my 3rd cycle, and now R andro only helps at a small dose. Just strictly do herb cycling now and feel fantastic.

[Maxout777]

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

It’s probably very similar to how R Andro started making me feel like shit once I recovered. I loved the stuff during PFS, now when I run it, I get maybe a week out of it before I feel like total ass.

[RickTheRuler]

Or that^. Simpler explanation lol.


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[Cdsnuts]

I can't tolerate it anymore either. Unfortunately. I think I'm going to be all natty this summer. Nothing out there does it for me anymore. I feel best cruising on the protocol. The R andro served it's purpose and I had alot of fun with it. Time for me to move on.