Everybodys on steroids!?

[longBallLima]

I like your approach of questioning before jumping in :-) like hts, i didn'tknow shit before my first ph run

[burlyman30]

I think this is my cue...

Food is the most anabolic substance known to man. Learn how to use it to accomplish your goals first.

I put my first 60 lbs of muscle on naturally in 5 years with hard training and massive eating, and I am what you would consider a hard gainer type, with the ectomorphic frame. Keep in mind, I only missed 3 training sessions in that same timeframe and the intensity was something from a Dorian Yates DVD (only he wasn't around yet).

I competed and won both PLing and BBing contests with this strategy, prior to using any AAS (PHs didn't exist back then). There is a lot your body CAN do if given the right training, food, and discipline. Give it some time to see what you can create out of your own efforts. You may be surprised.

[Dcabedo]

For you, eat 5000 calories a day, use a proven PL template (Westside, 5/3/1, Cube Method), and wait 2-3 more years.

Sounds like a pretty good idea. Normally I wouldn't even think about taking steroids but curiosity is getting the best of me...

What are your stats/age?

I'm 20 years old standing at 6 ft tall and weighing in at 218lbs. Still deciding whether I should be a big boy and walk around at 230 lbs or if I should shred down a bit.

[Dcabedo]

I think this is my cue...

Food is the most anabolic substance known to man. Learn how to use it to accomplish your goals first.

I put my first 60 lbs of muscle on naturally in 5 years with hard training and massive eating, and I am what you would consider a hard gainer type, with the ectomorphic frame. Keep in mind, I only missed 3 training sessions in that same timeframe and the intensity was something from a Dorian Yates DVD (only he wasn't around yet).

I competed and won both PLing and BBing contests with this strategy, prior to using any AAS (PHs didn't exist back then). There is a lot your body CAN do if given the right training, food, and discipline. Give it some time to see what you can create out of your own efforts. You may be surprised.

Exactly what I needed to hear....Thank you very much.

[weekend]

Get to 240, then hold it for a few months then cut for next summer and see what you can achieve naturally!

[longBallLima]

Shit,I'd hold another 4/5 years before hormones.eat and train

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

If you're young just go crazy with clean food. The hardest thing in the world is maintaining a high caloric clean diet, and it takes months to learn, and years to perfect. The older I get the more I am convinced that the real difference between the big guys and the little guys is how well they manage their intake of food.

[Jelisej]

I still have a TON to learn about proper dieting, I don't think i'll be able to cut white rice out of my diet though. It is just impossible for me to even go a couple days without it! haha. And as for training, I know there's always room for improvement. For now i'm gonna stay natural for as long as i can then MAYBE start cycling a steroid...I appreciate everyones advice!!!

I dont think that you really need to cut out white rice out of diet, unless you have some issue with it.
For some reasons white rice has been branded as really bad, which is not true, especially I found strange when people say it only brown rice, which is not that much different from white. A lot depends from cooking/boiling.
As for phs/steroids leave it on a side for now, and later think about it. Lot of people are using aas too frequent, so remeber- dont trust anything you hear, and only fraction of what you see.
And to be honest, you're quite a big boy already, so you should not worry about size too much- if you feel small better work on your confidence (IMO).

[longBallLima]

I dont think that you really need to cut out white rice out of diet, unless you have some issue with it.
For some reasons white rice has been branded as really bad, which is not true, especially I found strange when people say it only brown rice, which is not that much different from white. A lot depends from cooking/boiling.
As for phs/steroids leave it on a side for now, and later think about it. Lot of people are using aas too frequent, so remeber- dont trust anything you hear, and only fraction of what you see.

i too consume white rice with lust. really don't get much of the brown rice hype

[DJM]

x2
tastes better