please help - is androhard v3 the same as androhard lv (the liquid) ?

[pman42]

Hey man, sorry to hear about all your troubles. I have read that finasteride really fucks people up for a long time. should be a warning label on that shit.

As far as options go, give Eric's article "Fighting Gyno" or somesuch a read. It's on the forum here. It will tell you how to boost your DHT. Basically you can rub testosterone gel onto scrotum, use Andactrim gel, or shoot Masteron/take proviron (high dose creatine might work as well). Proviron and Masteron aren't fully real DHT so i don't know if they would help you. if my thinking on your idea is correct, you want to boost 5AR enzymes. So I would think that a test cream applied to a scrotum would be best, as everything else is already 5-alpha reduced and the test would supply substrate for conversion by 5AR enzyme. I am currently running masteron for gyno purposes and it seems to be working, very nice libido boost. It is definitely stronger than AndroHard V3 was, in terms of libido, and I think it is stronger in terms of gyno reduction, but it hasn't been long enough to tell.

Where are you located? Why not try going into a TRT clinic and trying to get a script for some AndroGel? some of the ones that advertise online are really really cheap

[ExtraZeus]

http://www.swolesource.com/forum/gen...urrection.html

Should answer a few questions...

[Cdsnuts]

well when my dick goes completely numb and i cant sleep at night and someone claims to be 100% cured and it played a part in it.. money does not become an option. ive been to over 20 doctors dude.. from like every displine.. none of them can figure out how to help me. they all look at me stupid and say finasteride doesnt stay in your system. last week i went to a doctor and he had me fill out a mental health evaluation. i would pay 10 grand for it if it actually could fix this. i would pay anything if i could fix it.

I'm glad you said "it played a part" because like I mention in my recovery thread, their were alot of pieces that went along with the recovery, all of them just as important as the last. I don't think too many guys get that. They think they are going to buy some pro-hormones and that's going to be the magic bullet. I can assure you, it's not.

Get your diet dialed in, get your lifestyle choices optimized, get your training up to par, THEN give the androhard a spin. You have a great bunch of guys here with alot of pooled knowledge to use as a resource.

[Cdsnuts]

Hey man, sorry to hear about all your troubles. I have read that finasteride really fucks people up for a long time. should be a warning label on that shit.

As far as options go, give Eric's article "Fighting Gyno" or somesuch a read. It's on the forum here. It will tell you how to boost your DHT. Basically you can rub testosterone gel onto scrotum, use Andactrim gel, or shoot Masteron/take proviron (high dose creatine might work as well). Proviron and Masteron aren't fully real DHT so i don't know if they would help you. if my thinking on your idea is correct, you want to boost 5AR enzymes. So I would think that a test cream applied to a scrotum would be best, as everything else is already 5-alpha reduced and the test would supply substrate for conversion by 5AR enzyme. I am currently running masteron for gyno purposes and it seems to be working, very nice libido boost. It is definitely stronger than AndroHard V3 was, in terms of libido, and I think it is stronger in terms of gyno reduction, but it hasn't been long enough to tell.

Where are you located? Why not try going into a TRT clinic and trying to get a script for some AndroGel? some of the ones that advertise online are really really cheap

This is what I originally thought too, but Eric said that it is a "use it or lose it" type thing, meaning more substrate(DHT) equals more enzyme(5ar). I really didn't understand because you would think that if there was more Test, more 5ar would be produced to convert.....that doesn't seem to be the case. I didn't get how using Androhard would increase the expression of 5ar, seeing as 5ar is what converts Test to DHT, but in my case, and just like Eric said, it did. He said just the presence of DHT would keep 5ar expression operating.

I found using it for longer cycles gave me better results. After each cycle and subsequent PCT, I became better and better and I can consider myself healed from years of horrible side effects that weren't going away. PP and Eric were VERY important in me getting my life back. That's a fact.

[comcast11]

I'm glad you said "it played a part" because like I mention in my recovery thread, their were alot of pieces that went along with the recovery, all of them just as important as the last. I don't think too many guys get that. They think they are going to buy some pro-hormones and that's going to be the magic bullet. I can assure you, it's not.

Get your diet dialed in, get your lifestyle choices optimized, get your training up to par, THEN give the androhard a spin. You have a great bunch of guys here with alot of pooled knowledge to use as a resource.

thanks for your post man. yeah, i realize it is just a part of it. i've been making some big strides lately only doing holistic stuff. i followed the holistic lifestyle for probably 3 years all organic. about 4 weeks ago i completely ran out of money and was eating crap like processed meat and 99 cent bread because i could barely scrape by. i went from feeling decent to completely going to SHIT. the entire PH forum is in a state of denial because they all think food doesn't matter. food is everything. i am 100% behind you in that. i'm not even planning to touch any prohormones until I can make some big strides with the holistic stuff. it is sad they don't jump on board.. i feel very bad for them. however, i went to such a bad place from post fin that i literally had no option BUT to go all organic.. i had pains in my entire pelvic area if i even touched a carbohydrate, let alone gluten.

thank you for all the input fellas. it is much appreciated. i will keep looking around the forums, but i've been doing better lately. great resource here. looking forward to being a part of this community.

[Cdsnuts]

thanks for your post man. yeah, i realize it is just a part of it. i've been making some big strides lately only doing holistic stuff. i followed the holistic lifestyle for probably 3 years all organic. about 4 weeks ago i completely ran out of money and was eating crap like processed meat and 99 cent bread because i could barely scrape by. i went from feeling decent to completely going to SHIT. the entire PH forum is in a state of denial because they all think food doesn't matter. food is everything. i am 100% behind you in that. i'm not even planning to touch any prohormones until I can make some big strides with the holistic stuff. it is sad they don't jump on board.. i feel very bad for them. however, i went to such a bad place from post fin that i literally had no option BUT to go all organic.. i had pains in my entire pelvic area if i even touched a carbohydrate, let alone gluten.

thank you for all the input fellas. it is much appreciated. i will keep looking around the forums, but i've been doing better lately. great resource here. looking forward to being a part of this community.

Always glad to give back and help when I can. Especially when it comes to that poison. On this board you'll find that these guys know how important food is. Input to your system is everything. You literally are what you eat.