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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Are you still doing 8 pumps morning and night? I'd drop the dose tbh. That's like 800mg of both androsterone and epi andro if I'm not mistaken. I do 4 pumps in the morning and another 4 at night which is 400mg of both.

    Anyway just keep going, you may not notice anything special on cycle but your baseline will improve after you get off it
    I've been doing 10 pumps day and night now actually. Been switching it between 8 and 10 really.

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    Day 14

    More editing - nothing real exciting to report about this day as I was mostly in the house sitting on my ass lol

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    Day 15

    Decent energy at work! On day 3 of no-caffeine so it still had its rough moments - but overall still probably better than a day with no prohormones lol

    AND HOLY SHIT

    MY RIGHT BALLSACK KEEPS ACHING

    Like I imagine this is the pain some guys claimed to experience when they first took Finasteride/Propecia... so maybe it's a good sign? Maybe damage is being reversed? Idk, but man it started like 9-10 hours ago and has been coming back sporadically

    Anyways, gonna meet up with this girl in about an hour and a half and hopefully can fit some gym in before bed as well. Update you guys again tomorrow!

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    Just a heads up, I think they changed the concentration of the AndroHard. The first bottle I purchased said 2-4 pumps for 1 dose on the label and the lotion was much more white. The newest bottle I have has the dose being 6-10 pumps and the lotion is more clear. I think they diluted the ingredients but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlucchi View Post
    Just a heads up, I think they changed the concentration of the AndroHard. The first bottle I purchased said 2-4 pumps for 1 dose on the label and the lotion was much more white. The newest bottle I have has the dose being 6-10 pumps and the lotion is more clear. I think they diluted the ingredients but I'm not sure.
    Damn I didn't even notice that. I bought two bottles a month ago, and I just checked, one of them suggests 2-4 pumps and the other 6-10. Thanks for posting that.

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    Day 16

    Got like 5 hours of sleep.... decided I was gonna break my no-caffeine streak and take 300mg today so I'd have more energy at work.

    Took the normal 10 pumps again today before taking the caffeine - felt ok at first at work but felt AMAZING after taking the caffeine

    Got in a great arm workout today too and overall just feeling good at the moment.

    Gonna try and get a good, deep 7 1/2 - 8 hours of sleep today and will report back tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Damn I didn't even notice that. I bought two bottles a month ago, and I just checked, one of them suggests 2-4 pumps and the other 6-10. Thanks for posting that.
    I checked with the company and was told that the first labelling was a misprint- that the correct dosage has always been 6-8 pumps. I was also informed that the new bottles contain *none* of the 4-dhea as listed on the bottle. That is, apparently, also a misprint.

    So, to clarify, the new bottle has the correct dosage instructions, but the wrong ingredients. The old product has the correct ingredients, but wrong dosages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    I checked with the company and was told that the first labelling was a misprint- that the correct dosage has always been 6-8 pumps. I was also informed that the new bottles contain *none* of the 4-dhea as listed on the bottle. That is, apparently, also a misprint.

    So, to clarify, the new bottle has the correct dosage instructions, but the wrong ingredients. The old product has the correct ingredients, but wrong dosages.
    Thanks for the clarification. It's weird though, Trump_1776 on hackstasis said he also contacted Muscle Gelz and they told him that AndroHard has contained 4-DHEA for a while now.

    Conflicting stuff man, probably gonna hold off my next cycle till this gets figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. It's weird though, Trump_1776 on hackstasis said he also contacted Muscle Gelz and they told him that AndroHard has contained 4-DHEA for a while now.

    Conflicting stuff man, probably gonna hold off my next cycle till this gets figured out.
    I asked about that, and I was told that was a mistake made by the producer. Apparently it has never contained the 4-dhea, that was supposed to be the ingredients for a new product.

    This is part of the email interaction I had with preston, the musclegelz sales rep.

    "Preston,

    Okay thanks. And just to clarify- androhard contains no 4-andro or 4-dhea in it?

    That is important because 4-dhea is known to aromatize.

    Thanks,
    Slade R"


    "That’s correct no 4 Andro, I swear. We thought about adding it in and our web developer went ahead and added it in there and we didn’t even know it!

    We are going to do a separate 4 Andro 1 Andro product mix called Gear in the future.

    Hope this helps resolve all the confusion

    Let me know if you have any more questions.

    Thanks!

    Preston "

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    I checked with the company and was told that the first labelling was a misprint- that the correct dosage has always been 6-8 pumps. I was also informed that the new bottles contain *none* of the 4-dhea as listed on the bottle. That is, apparently, also a misprint.

    So, to clarify, the new bottle has the correct dosage instructions, but the wrong ingredients. The old product has the correct ingredients, but wrong dosages.
    Wait, so am I taking any of the wrong stuff then? or am I good?

    This sucks if I'm missing out on any solid effects I should be getting otherwise

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    It looks like your good. How many pumps did you say you're doing? I did 4 pumps twice daily and it hit me like a ton of bricks.

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