Round II

[burlyman30]

Point taken.

As far as the gear is concerned, i decided to wait a couple of days until i was feeling tip top again before starting. I'm amazed i've managed to do so.


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The restraint must be painful. Hahaha.

[Sperwer]

I have a friend who is a recovered - knock on wood - speedball (mainlined coke/heroin combo) addict. He once told me that when he was using and even thought about getting a fix he would have an irresistible compulsion to crap himself. I now sort of understand, and I haven't even touched the stuff yet...


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[Sperwer]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20x%20480).m4v

Mr. Rat had his first dose of Parabolan today and, after complaining that someone seemed to have mistaken him for a horse, reported that the initial effect of 50mg was one hell of a sore ass.

[burlyman30]

Haha. What gauge needle did you get stuck with?

[Sperwer]

22/1.5

[burlyman30]

huh... not unbearable large. I use 23s now, but 22s should be fine. I'm guessing it was only 1ml, so it shouldn't be that much material inside to cause a lot of PIP. Maybe it's the virgin territory rebelling against the first-time invader. I never really dealt with PIP much, so I don't have a ton of explanation for you. I'd just massage the area every so often and get the stuff to move on into the rest of your system.

[Sperwer]

I get a "JFK Special" Vitamin B cocktail injection every month at the doc's, and their BIG, so it's not a complete novelty to me, but those aren't depos and the nurse gets it in up near the hip. I went for the meat and then had a go at it with a light touch of a magic wand massager that I usually use on my dodgy left shoulder. Helped, but the initial impact was a still a little sobering. LOL

[burlyman30]

I get a "JFK Special" Vitamin B cocktail injection every month at the doc's, and their BIG, so it's not a complete novelty to me, but those aren't depos and the nurse gets it in up near the hip. I went for the meat and then had a go at it with a light touch of a magic wand massager that I usually use on my dodgy left shoulder. Helped, but the initial impact was a still a little sobering. LOL

Inject yourself? Or have someone else do it? Was wondering if there was excess movement once the syringe was in, which can happen when bending around to inject yourself. If so, that could have been a factor in additional pain.

Oh... and use a draw needle and then switch it out for the actual injection needle prior to sticking yourself. Makes a WORLD of difference. Those rubber stoppers seriously dull the point of a needle.

You can always try another site, like the top of your quad instead of your glute, though I'd say glutes are the most commonly used and often the least painful.

If PIP persists, you can go shallow and do SubQ instead to see if that squelches the problem.

[Sperwer]

Self injection; and yeah there probably was a little wiggling. Will try the draw needle switch next time. And while it was a little painful, it was bearable - more discomfiting than anything more; on the other hand, the chiro says that, although I'm a noisy bitch when he's bending me around like a pretzel, I have an unusually high physical pain threshold. Of course, he's got my number and may just be saying that to make me live up to his assessment/flattery so he can push the torture even farther. And the fact is I just find getting stuck with things weird in a way that makes me mentally uncomfortable. I guess if I were gay, I'd never be a "catcher".

[Sperwer]

Yeah, I know it's too soon to even think about it. Still



In the meantime, the source apologized for the delay in getting the gear out by sending me a couple vials of IGF-1 LR3.

Hmm, thinking...