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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I got my blood results back.

    Testosterone needs improvement.

    DHEA is below normal range.

    Thyroid is VERY low.

    Is DHEA made by the adrenal glands?

    Are the herbs/exercise/diet enough to overcome this?

    Is there more I can do to recover my thyroid and adrenals?
    When thyroid improves everything else will. I would get on pine pollen right away which has contains androsterone and DHEA. Both of which are pro-metabolic and are in amounts where it would help upregulate endogenous production. Make sure your cholesterol is high enough so thyroid has raw material.

    Also, make sure minerals are good especially magnesium and selenium along with all of the fat soluble vitamins.

    When your thyroid improves the adrenals will along with DHEA and T will go up. Resistance exercise should help as it increases thyroid conversion but overdoing it will increase cortisol and actually cause the opposite so don't over train and keep the sets short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TubZy View Post
    When thyroid improves everything else will. I would get on pine pollen right away which has contains androsterone and DHEA. Both of which are pro-metabolic and are in amounts where it would help upregulate endogenous production. Make sure your cholesterol is high enough so thyroid has raw material.

    Also, make sure minerals are good especially magnesium and selenium along with all of the fat soluble vitamins.

    When your thyroid improves the adrenals will along with DHEA and T will go up. Resistance exercise should help as it increases thyroid conversion but overdoing it will increase cortisol and actually cause the opposite so don't over train and keep the sets short.
    When you say "get on pine pollen..." do you mean daily dosage or as part of the cycle? I have pine pollen on order. My serum cholestrol 7 months ago was 3.4 mmol/L (131.48 mg/dl) which I think is high enough as long as no change since(?). Do I need to have this, magnesium and selenium tested (I think my diet gives enough)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benq123 View Post
    When you say "get on pine pollen..." do you mean daily dosage or as part of the cycle? I have pine pollen on order. My serum cholestrol 7 months ago was 3.4 mmol/L (131.48 mg/dl) which I think is high enough as long as no change since(?). Do I need to have this, magnesium and selenium tested (I think my diet gives enough)?
    You'll never have enough magnesium...especially if you were already deficient. Magnesium |

    This just happen to hit my box today:
    Why Magnesium is the Most Powerful Relaxation Mineral Known to Man : The Hearty Soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I got my blood results back.

    Testosterone needs improvement.

    DHEA is below normal range.

    Thyroid is VERY low.

    Is DHEA made by the adrenal glands?

    Are the herbs/exercise/diet enough to overcome this?

    Is there more I can do to recover my thyroid and adrenals?
    By following the protocol outlined here and on my site, EVERYTHING will eventually work itself out. If you commit 100% without hesitation, there will be no need for further blood work unless you just wanted to do it out of curiosity. You'll have ups and downs, but you will level out and then eventually all your numbers will get themselves back into a healthy range.

    This is the holistic way to treat yourself. No need to bandaid this and tweak that....just follow the protocol.

    If you did want extra thyroid support, I used a product way back when that really got it moving fast. https://www.amazon.com/OPTIMOX-Iodor...be9ab93492a9b6

    You'll notice a difference in days.

    Other then that, just stick to the program and all will work itself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I got my blood results back.

    Testosterone needs improvement.

    DHEA is below normal range.

    Thyroid is VERY low.

    Is DHEA made by the adrenal glands?

    Are the herbs/exercise/diet enough to overcome this?

    Is there more I can do to recover my thyroid and adrenals?
    Did you follow Tubzys and CD's advice on thyroid issue (how low was it)? If so, has it improved since then? My latest thyroid readings are now low (after being good 3 months ago) so Im considering the same approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benq123 View Post
    Did you follow Tubzys and CD's advice on thyroid issue (how low was it)? If so, has it improved since then? My latest thyroid readings are now low (after being good 3 months ago) so Im considering the same approach.
    I think its a bit too soon for me to have major improvement.
    The advice they gave makes sense and I'm following it.
    Now I'm just waiting for a new baseline.

    Speaking of...I heard you feel like crap when reaching a new baseline.
    I wonder if I'll recognize this feeling. Guess I'll know when it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I think its a bit too soon for me to have major improvement.
    The advice they gave makes sense and I'm following it.
    Now I'm just waiting for a new baseline.

    Speaking of...I heard you feel like crap when reaching a new baseline.
    I wonder if I'll recognize this feeling. Guess I'll know when it happens.
    So you are on the supplement CD suggested? I'm considering trying it myself but was hoping you'd had a boost from it.

    Can I see your thyroid results if possible? Just comparing with myself
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I think its a bit too soon for me to have major improvement.
    The advice they gave makes sense and I'm following it.
    Now I'm just waiting for a new baseline.

    Speaking of...I heard you feel like crap when reaching a new baseline.
    I wonder if I'll recognize this feeling. Guess I'll know when it happens.
    This is how it went for me. Everytime that I started feeling like crap, or worse than before, I ended up progressing up better than before over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. You're in the right headspace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    I think its a bit too soon for me to have major improvement.
    The advice they gave makes sense and I'm following it.
    Now I'm just waiting for a new baseline.

    Speaking of...I heard you feel like crap when reaching a new baseline.
    I wonder if I'll recognize this feeling. Guess I'll know when it happens.
    It's always darkest before the dawn.

    You always feel the worst before breaking through to a new level. Always.
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