Gaining Mass

[RickTheRuler]

Just out of interest, do you use creatine? Has that affected your hair at all?

Yeah I use it. & I’m not sure, I know it increases DHT.

The hair thing isn’t visually noticeable. But my head would get hot and itchy, & it makes me feel like hair is literally falling out everytime I feel the itching, I just buzzed it super pre maturely. It’s mentally exhausting to worry. I just dove in now. Fuck it.

[Benq123]

Yeah I use it. & I’m not sure, I know it increases DHT.

The hair thing isn’t visually noticeable. But my head would get hot and itchy, & it makes me feel like hair is literally falling out everytime I feel the itching, I just buzzed it super pre maturely. It’s mentally exhausting to worry. I just dove in now. Fuck it.

Maybe thinning/balding is just part of the recovery process? We all took Finasteride presumably because we have the balding gene and now we are trying to reverse the Finasteride effects so maybe it's a good thing to thin? I dunno lol.
Either way, I'm on the fence about taking creatine, because I'm fairly sure it will accelerate my hair loss but maybe that's just what I need to speed up PFS recovery...

[RickTheRuler]

Maybe thinning/balding is just part of the recovery process? We all took Finasteride presumably because we have the balding gene and now we are trying to reverse the Finasteride effects so maybe it's a good thing to thin? I dunno lol.
Either way, I'm on the fence about taking creatine, because I'm fairly sure it will accelerate my hair loss but maybe that's just what I need to speed up PFS recovery...

Your correct, you should want to thin, your on the right track.. the thinning started after my 4-Andro/R Andro stack.. the results from that were sticking well after the cycle too.. I was feeling good, then the itch game and that voice of vanity crept in..when I felt the itch I should’ve been happy tbh.. but I wasn’t . Then I buzzed it on Monday and saw that I actually look bad ass as long as I’m taking care of my body in the weight room. I’ve gotten compliments already at work.. I look like an MMA guy lol.

Every single part of the program is to increase testosterone and androgens. It’s a heavy T building program.. if a person who didn’t have PFS followed it to a tee, rotated 21 herbs, ate right, exercised, did prohormones every 2 months.. they would be absolute machines in the weight room, and bedroom. I can only imagine .. a lot of guys seem to stop after they are recovered, shit I might just get even stricter after I’m 100%. I mean CD can’t even use pine pollen, it gets his libido too high, that’s the kind of problems I would like, im gonna be a walking erection.



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[tallstraw]

Your correct, you should want to thin, your on the right track.. the thinning started after my 4-Andro/R Andro stack.. the results from that were sticking well after the cycle too.. I was feeling good, then the itch game and that voice of vanity crept in..when I felt the itch I should’ve been happy tbh.. but I wasn’t . Then I buzzed it on Monday and saw that I actually look bad ass as long as I’m taking care of my body in the weight room. I’ve gotten compliments already at work.. I look like an MMA guy lol.

Every single part of the program is to increase testosterone and androgens. It’s a heavy T building program.. if a person who didn’t have PFS followed it to a tee, rotated 21 herbs, ate right, exercised, did prohormones every 2 months.. they would be absolute machines in the weight room, and bedroom. I can only imagine .. a lot of guys seem to stop after they are recovered, shit I might just get even stricter after I’m 100%. I mean CD can’t even use pine pollen, it gets his libido too high, that’s the kind of problems I would like, im gonna be a walking erection.



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Lmao, wait a sec.. are you telling me before i visit Russia, to nail these girls on leave.. if i take this stuff it will still benefit me? I may try this just for some extra drive before i leave, report back on how it goes.

[The Goat]

Before PFS creatine made me feel like a million bucks but definitely increased shedding. YMMV. It also made me much stronger within a week. I will start using it again in March/April for the summer to bulk up a bit. Shedding or not.

In the end feeling good, energetic and confident is more important. To me at least. I learned this the hard way in PFS.

But once you get over the line and you feel better consistently and you start shedding you want to fix that. It is a joke from nature!

I said this before when I am in a downswing and not feeling good I get no attention, girls look like foreign objects and getting through the day is a task. My life is on PAUSE in a sense. It is like you live in a different universe.

Upswing/hormones working better girls smile at me more, clear interest from some girls, etc. You look at a girl and think "DAMN!!!". you feel good consistently.

I think acceptance comes in time and also need to get laid a few times as a bald guy to see that it does not matter. That I think is also part of why guys are scared. "Will I still get laid w/ hair?" The answer is obviously yes but you need to prove it to yourself by doing it.

[Bankai9000]

Perfectly said man xD
In a downswing you just wish to be somewhat normal, that life is liveable man, but when feeling better you start focusing on the next thing, and the next thing. And hair is no exception.
Deep inside I definitely have this desire to fix everything, I've fixed SO much why can't I fix my hair too xD. I even feel like I wanna fix hairloss EVEN more since I'm going through all of this shiet because of it.
Still don't know how tho xd.

[markuss]

@rick

How was the cycle compared to just r-andro? Did it help with fatigue/lethargy?

[Benq123]

Before PFS creatine made me feel like a million bucks but definitely increased shedding. YMMV. It also made me much stronger within a week. I will start using it again in March/April for the summer to bulk up a bit. Shedding or not.

In the end feeling good, energetic and confident is more important. To me at least. I learned this the hard way in PFS.

But once you get over the line and you feel better consistently and you start shedding you want to fix that. It is a joke from nature!

I said this before when I am in a downswing and not feeling good I get no attention, girls look like foreign objects and getting through the day is a task. My life is on PAUSE in a sense. It is like you live in a different universe.

Upswing/hormones working better girls smile at me more, clear interest from some girls, etc. You look at a girl and think "DAMN!!!". you feel good consistently.

I think acceptance comes in time and also need to get laid a few times as a bald guy to see that it does not matter. That I think is also part of why guys are scared. "Will I still get laid w/ hair?" The answer is obviously yes but you need to prove it to yourself by doing it.

True words.
Please let me know how creatine makes you feel when you start it again I'm interested.

[Rafenk]

Bizarre.