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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks View Post
    I can relate to a lot of the above. Glad to hear you’re doing well! Curious, do you have penis size reduction during dips, flaccid or erect? Length and or girth changes at all?
    If my erection quality isnt great during these dips, then yes, but I cant say that I notice any size changes while flaccid. Aside from erection quality fluctuations, size loss was something I never experienced throughout this whole fiasco. What I did experience a lot early on was a difference in the rigidity of my penis when flaccid. There was a more rubbery consistency when flaccid. This largely resolved itself when I stopped having. ad downswings about 1.5-2 months ago, but I occasionally notice a slight change in firmness when in a dip. Over all it seems to be ironing itself out.

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    Nice going, bro! You’re well on your way to recovery, keep going

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGo View Post
    Nice going, bro! You’re well on your way to recovery, keep going
    Thanks man, and wishing you the best with the extended fast🥂

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    Shortly after making my last post, I came back down to my baseline, and have more or less been there the last 3-4 weeks. This is the longest I've gone without having a definite and sustained upswing since starting the protocol 6.5 months ago, so I'm wondering if the landscape is changing, and if that's really a good thing or if I'm plateauing or something. When on an upswing you get this unwavering impression that your recovery is clearly going in the right direction, but these last few weeks feel like limbo. It's not a downswing and it's not a forward march. Things are up a little and down alittle, but never too far from the baseline, which is somewhere slightly below my pre-PFS state I'd say. Everything happens in flickers lately. Libido, lack thereof, energy/enthusiasm/or lack thereof, comes and goes but doesnt really stick for more than a day or so.
    If any vets are reading this, does a time come when upswings just stop? What exactly does that indicate? I am probably being impatient, but its nagging me that I've not gone this long without an upswing. My last one was a good month/month and a half or so in duration (the longest yet), so maybe it's going to be a little longer before another uptick....just staying calm and breathing in the interim...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastnoirking87 View Post
    Shortly after making my last post, I came back down to my baseline, and have more or less been there the last 3-4 weeks. This is the longest I've gone without having a definite and sustained upswing since starting the protocol 6.5 months ago, so I'm wondering if the landscape is changing, and if that's really a good thing or if I'm plateauing or something. When on an upswing you get this unwavering impression that your recovery is clearly going in the right direction, but these last few weeks feel like limbo. It's not a downswing and it's not a forward march. Things are up a little and down alittle, but never too far from the baseline, which is somewhere slightly below my pre-PFS state I'd say. Everything happens in flickers lately. Libido, lack thereof, energy/enthusiasm/or lack thereof, comes and goes but doesnt really stick for more than a day or so.
    If any vets are reading this, does a time come when upswings just stop? What exactly does that indicate? I am probably being impatient, but its nagging me that I've not gone this long without an upswing. My last one was a good month/month and a half or so in duration (the longest yet), so maybe it's going to be a little longer before another uptick....just staying calm and breathing in the interim...
    In my experience, when they stop and grow long like that, you’re getting closer and closer to the finish line. Especially someone like you who’s doing everything right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxout777 View Post
    In my experience, when they stop and grow long like that, you’re getting closer and closer to the finish line. Especially someone like you who’s doing everything right.
    Great to see you back Max

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    Would you try prohormones man? I am no expert but boys here have said they improved after them.
    Last edited by Thetfordboy; 08-02-2022 at 07:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxout777 View Post
    In my experience, when they stop and grow long like that, you’re getting closer and closer to the finish line. Especially someone like you who’s doing everything right.
    Hey man, great to hear from you over here. Your experience and insight really puts me at ease on this point. I guess the landscape really is changing as I'm getting further along. I just got so used to thinking in terms of being either Up or Down for so long...guess I'll look at this as a welcome change of scenery. Thanks a lot for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetfordboy View Post
    Would you try prohormones man? I am no expert but boys here have said they improved after them.
    Yes, I was originally planning on running ultra hard at the 3 month mark, but my upswings started within the first month of being on protocol, and just kept coming, and I kept making serious headway the whole time (more or less, despite the 2 forward 1 back paradigm), so I just put it off indefinitely.
    I actually have the two bottles of ultra hard stored away, but something I swore I wasnt going to do was make any decisions out of desperation, so I'm going to give it some more time here, and if upswings remain elusive, I'll be looking at a cycle. Another thing is that I really want to get my estrogen checked before starting Ultra Hard, because I have to have a clear conscience before embarking on a whole new arm of this journey. I have found tht, for me, peace of mind is worth so much. It's the reason I have simply been opting out on any food or beverage that I am not absolutely 100% assured is safe for me at the moment. I am totally capable of falling prey to doubt or regret over a half baked decision and getting run over by that.
    I have the feeling progress is actually occuring during this limbo period, as I am getting these brief glimpses of being more normal than ever before, but they just flicker on and off...its hard to describe. Something is definitely happening, not standing totally still...just not racing at breakneck speed towards the next milestone I guess...gonna give it all more time and just keep focused and positive.

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    Ok interesting, I am on the herbs and strict protocol 9 weeks now-7 weeks on herbs. To be honest my sides now are all sexual;0 libido and bad ed. Whilst my mental health has improved greatly since the crash in March I feel little to nothing of the herbs for my sexual sides.

    I am dosing with pine pollen daily and all herbs on tmo. I have ordered the prohormones and am hoping they will move me in the right direction.
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