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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    down swings don't last longer than 2 weeks for me and they might actually be what's causing recovery. body downregulates system so it can snapback stronger. just a theory.

    unfortunately i dont even know if i have been going through upswings and downswings

    my prohormone cycle gave me 0 noticeable effects. maybe i had a slightly easier time sleeping if anything but im not sure

    after all my sexual sides recovered after a month from quitting dutasteride, i havent improved at all when it comes to anhedonia, brain fog, and insomnia

    will be doing round 2 of super r andro and 4 andro for 6-8 weeks in 1.5 months

    also did bloodwork and it turns out that my estrone levels are high and out of range... b1 and b2 vitamins are low

    i wonder if this has anything to do with my 5ar enzymes not being activated and my hair not falling out.... hmmmm

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    Recovery from Dutasteride Journey

    My hairs not falling out either since i crashed


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    Quote Originally Posted by whoevencares00 View Post
    My hairs not falling out either since i crashed


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    yeah, but on prohormone cycle it usually starts falling out again

    mine hasnt yet so just saying that i didnt really get anything out of first prohormone cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakehouse99 View Post
    unfortunately i dont even know if i have been going through upswings and downswings

    my prohormone cycle gave me 0 noticeable effects. maybe i had a slightly easier time sleeping if anything but im not sure

    after all my sexual sides recovered after a month from quitting dutasteride, i havent improved at all when it comes to anhedonia, brain fog, and insomnia

    will be doing round 2 of super r andro and 4 andro for 6-8 weeks in 1.5 months

    also did bloodwork and it turns out that my estrone levels are high and out of range... b1 and b2 vitamins are low

    i wonder if this has anything to do with my 5ar enzymes not being activated and my hair not falling out.... hmmmm
    yeah I guess everyone is different. for me the brain fog/emotions are basically just mentally back to my old self I think lol

    sleep/libido is what yoyos for me. sleep is the most annoying though cuz the libido I can at least bang like twice a week which is optimal anyways. I obviously wanna get back my super high libido though (which I do have at times though again)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    yeah I guess everyone is different. for me the brain fog/emotions are basically just mentally back to my old self I think lol

    sleep/libido is what yoyos for me. sleep is the most annoying though cuz the libido I can at least bang like twice a week which is optimal anyways. I obviously wanna get back my super high libido though (which I do have at times though again)


    did you have high estrone levels when you crashed?

    i have high T, high estrone, high prolactin

    how the fk do i even correct the estrone out of range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    yeah I guess everyone is different. for me the brain fog/emotions are basically just mentally back to my old self I think lol

    sleep/libido is what yoyos for me. sleep is the most annoying though cuz the libido I can at least bang like twice a week which is optimal anyways. I obviously wanna get back my super high libido though (which I do have at times though again)
    Are you blocking blue light at night? That shit works. Wake up with the sun and put blockers on at night.

    My sleep is next level doing this consistently right now. I'm dreaming for the first time in years too.
    Its only work until its routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Are you blocking blue light at night? That shit works. Wake up with the sun and put blockers on at night.

    My sleep is next level doing this consistently right now. I'm dreaming for the first time in years too.
    And because of that, your healing is going to go into hypermode. I'm sure your cold exposure and breathing practices are adding to the increase in quality sleep as well. You're hitting next level on a bunch of things bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakehouse99 View Post
    did you have high estrone levels when you crashed?

    i have high T, high estrone, high prolactin

    how the fk do i even correct the estrone out of range?
    r- andro lowers estrone

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Are you blocking blue light at night? That shit works. Wake up with the sun and put blockers on at night.

    My sleep is next level doing this consistently right now. I'm dreaming for the first time in years too.
    I do almost everything you can imagine. I use blue blockers 1-2 hours before bed. I use pink noise. noise cancellation headphones. black out curtains. eye mask lol. don't eat anything 3 hours before bed.

    only thing I fuck up on is I have a late sleep schedule because of my lifestyle. 3am-12pm ideally is my sleep window
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    r- andro lowers estrone

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    I do almost everything you can imagine. I use blue blockers 1-2 hours before bed. I use pink noise. noise cancellation headphones. black out curtains. eye mask lol. don't eat anything 3 hours before bed.

    only thing I fuck up on is I have a late sleep schedule because of my lifestyle. 3am-12pm ideally is my sleep window
    Is that just on weekends? That's a pretty major thing that might kinda be undoing everything else you listed above that lol.

    That used to be my schedule, and I had chronic sleep problems. Now everything is so dialed in for me I wake up naturally at first light in the mornings, and go watch the sunrise every day.

    Only other problems that I've ever had otherwise waking up are liquids before bed and getting super aggressive with intermittent fasting & it giving me cortisol spikes during the night, and waking up with palpitations.
    Its only work until its routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Is that just on weekends? That's a pretty major thing that might kinda be undoing everything else you listed above that lol.

    That used to be my schedule, and I had chronic sleep problems. Now everything is so dialed in for me I wake up naturally at first light in the mornings, and go watch the sunrise every day.

    Only other problems that I've ever had otherwise waking up are liquids before bed and getting super aggressive with intermittent fasting & it giving me cortisol spikes during the night, and waking up with palpitations.
    it's every day. I've tested doing it earlier and I don't notice a difference. I live in Canada we barely get sun here anyways. Only thing is if my neighbors are making a ruckace. redicolous because I live in a detatched house but they have kids who think it's cool to play basketball on our mutual driveway at 730am and they don't really care that it pisses me off lol
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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