Path to get my life back

[Mistyballoon]

Hi Everyone,

My name is Hugh from Indonesia. 25 years old.

Sorry for my grammar and else since English is not my first language.

Took finasteride while back in 2016-2017ish, not continuously, on and off for the range of those 2 years. I stopped taking it as soon as I feel the side effects (ED) and decrease in Libido. I did not feel the depression and anxiety as part of the side effects since I was already depressed before taking the Finasteride (relationship problem). ED and Libido problem stays until now. I went to see a doctor and he told me to lose weight and exercise, and I did. He also ordered me to check my T from blood test, I got 478.2 ng/DL.

I just realized that the symptoms did not go away as I lost weight and changed my diet (calorie deficit) so I panicked and found out about PFS just last night.



I was depressed enough to get any informations possible, ended up in some youtube videos with comments mentioning this forum. So far very hopeful to get my life back seeing some members actually getting theirs.

I am planning to start the juice fast for 7 days next week and continue with all the routines provided. I am really in the middle of darkness right now and need some comforting, is there really a chance to heal from this situation? Does all the herbs & supplements will give me just another side effects just like Propecia?



Thank you so much and I am looking forward to any tips / informations regarding this PFS problem.

[Cdsnuts]

Hi Everyone,

My name is Hugh from Indonesia. 25 years old.

Sorry for my grammar and else since English is not my first language.

Took finasteride while back in 2016-2017ish, not continuously, on and off for the range of those 2 years. I stopped taking it as soon as I feel the side effects (ED) and decrease in Libido. I did not feel the depression and anxiety as part of the side effects since I was already depressed before taking the Finasteride (relationship problem). ED and Libido problem stays until now. I went to see a doctor and he told me to lose weight and exercise, and I did. He also ordered me to check my T from blood test, I got 478.2 ng/DL.

I just realized that the symptoms did not go away as I lost weight and changed my diet (calorie deficit) so I panicked and found out about PFS just last night.



I was depressed enough to get any informations possible, ended up in some youtube videos with comments mentioning this forum. So far very hopeful to get my life back seeing some members actually getting theirs.

I am planning to start the juice fast for 7 days next week and continue with all the routines provided. I am really in the middle of darkness right now and need some comforting, is there really a chance to heal from this situation? Does all the herbs & supplements will give me just another side effects just like Propecia?



Thank you so much and I am looking forward to any tips / informations regarding this PFS problem.

This place wouldn't be as successful as it's been if it only caused more side effects my man.

Everything you need to know is on TMO and this forum. EVERYTHING. Dive in and start researching/reading.

[Mistyballoon]

This place wouldn't be as successful as it's been if it only caused more side effects my man.

Everything you need to know is on TMO and this forum. EVERYTHING. Dive in and start researching/reading.

Thank you so much for consistently being positive and helping others in this dark times..

BTW I just woke up (its 8AM in Indonesia) and I got my morning wood (60% hard) for some reason...

I think its because I feel theres hope from reading this forum, and also I just told a friend about the problem..

Opening myself about the problem has been pretty good.. Monday I will start my juice feast for 7 days, is there any particular fruits to do / not to do?

For now I'll enjoy some food for my weekend..

[Mistyballoon]

Hi Everyone,

Took my first step onto the journey, started the juice feast today..

I have several questions, would appreciate any informations;

is there any protocol that I need to do on my Juice Feast? Herbs? Workouts?

Once I clear the juice feast (planning to do 7 days) do I need to recondition my body with eating only fruits & veggies, or should I jump right away to paleo?

I have 1 more question; Ive talked to an Andrologist regarding the problem, and told him this caused by finasteride, he seemed to understand what finasteride does and quite supportive. The only thing is he gave me a prescription (custom medicine) that contains : Sidenafil, Diazepam, Vit B1..

I have no problem with sidenafil and vit B1, but for Diazepam, I am kinda unsure because I looked at it on the Internet and found out that Diazepam would cause ED in a high dose. Told my doctor about it and he told me he gave me a very low does (0.75mg) to relax my muscle in my reproductive system.

Does anyone have experiences regarding Diazepam? Paid for my medicine but have not took it because I am afraid.

Thank you very much

Thank you..

[Mojo]

Diazepam is a benzodiazepine prescribed for anxiety disorders. Unless you are experiencing life inhibiting anxiety and relevant insomnia I would not take it. While diazepam (valium) is one of the more lenient benzodiazepines it is still dependency forming and addictive. Withdrawal from benzodiazepines is one of the more dangerous and difficult withdrawals out there. I’m not a doctor, but I’ve had my run with alprazolam (xanax). It helped me at times to relax and sleep, which helped me recover. But I had crushing anxiety.

Edit - 0.75mg of diazepam is an extremely low dose, to the point where I wonder if it even matters to take it. If you want to try it out I’d be very very surprised it even doing anything to you, positive or negative. It most definitely won’t hurt you. But just don’t take it for months.

[Mistyballoon]

Diazepam is a benzodiazepine prescribed for anxiety disorders. Unless you are experiencing life inhibiting anxiety and relevant insomnia I would not take it. While diazepam (valium) is one of the more lenient benzodiazepines it is still dependency forming and addictive. Withdrawal from benzodiazepines is one of the more dangerous and difficult withdrawals out there. I’m not a doctor, but I’ve had my run with alprazolam (xanax). It helped me at times to relax and sleep, which helped me recover. But I had crushing anxiety.

Edit - 0.75mg of diazepam is an extremely low dose, to the point where I wonder if it even matters to take it. If you want to try it out I’d be very very surprised it even doing anything to you, positive or negative. It most definitely won’t hurt you. But just don’t take it for months.

Thank you so much for your reply,

The doctor said the diazepam is for relaxing the muscle in my reproductive system, he did not say anything about the anxiety / insomnia. Personally I don't want to take it for my anxiety, I prefer do it naturally.. But if Diazepam could actually physically help the sexual symptoms, I'd be glad to try.

In case if I decided to try it, is it okay to take it while I'm doing my juice feast?

Thank you.

[Mojo]

Thank you so much for your reply,

The doctor said the diazepam is for relaxing the muscle in my reproductive system, he did not say anything about the anxiety / insomnia. Personally I don't want to take it for my anxiety, I prefer do it naturally.. But if Diazepam could actually physically help the sexual symptoms, I'd be glad to try.

In case if I decided to try it, is it okay to take it while I'm doing my juice feast?

Thank you.

Well, Diazepam is a nervous system depressant. It has a lengthy half-life but will still run out after a few days (which means btw that if you take it often it will build up in your system, so watch out with frequent use). The thing I don't really understand is why it's being offered as a medication for ED.
Once it's out of your system your nervous system will go back to it's original state. It's like taking a pain killer for a broken bone. Sure it will help the pain for a few hours but it won't accelerate you recovery. I personally don't have any problem with trying it but apart from maybe showing a clear connection of your ED problems to an overexcited nervous system there is really no point to it. I mean, the fact that he put viagra in the mix tells me this pill is supposed to be an on the spot solution for ED, not a long term thing.

The juice feast is meant as a period where you flush toxins from your system and go for a complete restart. I'd say it's probably not a big problem but it does kind of goes against the idea.

[Mistyballoon]

Well, Diazepam is a nervous system depressant. It has a lengthy half-life but will still run out after a few days (which means btw that if you take it often it will build up in your system, so watch out with frequent use). The thing I don't really understand is why it's being offered as a medication for ED.
Once it's out of your system your nervous system will go back to it's original state. It's like taking a pain killer for a broken bone. Sure it will help the pain for a few hours but it won't accelerate you recovery. I personally don't have any problem with trying it but apart from maybe showing a clear connection of your ED problems to an overexcited nervous system there is really no point to it. I mean, the fact that he put viagra in the mix tells me this pill is supposed to be an on the spot solution for ED, not a long term thing.

The juice feast is meant as a period where you flush toxins from your system and go for a complete restart. I'd say it's probably not a big problem but it does kind of goes against the idea.

Thank you so much, guess I will just stick into CD's protocol without those medications..

It means so much to get a reply from people like you who cares, especially in Indonesia, nobody seemed to understand about the problem.

How are your recovery progress if I may ask, do you have any tips, something that you change / add from the protocol? I just finished my 1st juice feast, surprisingly my body can handle it nicely..

Thank you..

[Mojo]

You are in a good community here! Only real tip I can give you is to trust in the system and to have a positive mindset about it. Listen to your body, if some supplement is giving you tummy aches or something, swap it out for a different one. Really believe you can recover and that you are doing a thing that is good for you. Also, don’t slack on the meditation. I’m pretty much following it 100% apart from some extra fish oil and lavender I take to help my sleep. Best of luck!

[Cdsnuts]

Hi Everyone,

Took my first step onto the journey, started the juice feast today..

I have several questions, would appreciate any informations;

is there any protocol that I need to do on my Juice Feast? Herbs? Workouts?

Once I clear the juice feast (planning to do 7 days) do I need to recondition my body with eating only fruits & veggies, or should I jump right away to paleo?

I have 1 more question; Ive talked to an Andrologist regarding the problem, and told him this caused by finasteride, he seemed to understand what finasteride does and quite supportive. The only thing is he gave me a prescription (custom medicine) that contains : Sidenafil, Diazepam, Vit B1..

I have no problem with sidenafil and vit B1, but for Diazepam, I am kinda unsure because I looked at it on the Internet and found out that Diazepam would cause ED in a high dose. Told my doctor about it and he told me he gave me a very low does (0.75mg) to relax my muscle in my reproductive system.

Does anyone have experiences regarding Diazepam? Paid for my medicine but have not took it because I am afraid.

Thank you very much

Thank you..

Very interesting custom med there. I can see why he went that route because those meds combined would certainly help, for short term, but in the long run, it's going to do nothing but set you back.

Follow the protocol EXACTLY as laid out.