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    Quote Originally Posted by RickTheRuler View Post
    Is the amount of time with Prohormones vs without THAT drastic? Does not using it slow you down by months or years??

    i have nothing morally against it, I know they are safe. I’m just willing to sacrifice some time if it means using them after being 100%
    FYI, my R-andro cycle was the biggest turning point for me recovery wise. That's when my mental state really starting improving, everything else has been improving since

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    Quote Originally Posted by basementdweller View Post
    FYI, my R-andro cycle was the biggest turning point for me recovery wise. That's when my mental state really starting improving, everything else has been improving since
    Yeah...it does seem to have that effect on alot of guys. It seems to be the turning point for many of them. It gives you that little push that you need to take things to the next level.

    You can certainly do it without the prohormones, but why bother?

    The sooner the PFS is over, the fucking better.

    If everyone keeps at it, pretty soon we're going to have a site full of super humans.....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Yeah...it does seem to have that effect on alot of guys. It seems to be the turning point for many of them. It gives you that little push that you need to take things to the next level.

    You can certainly do it without the prohormones, but why bother?

    The sooner the PFS is over, the fucking better.

    If everyone keeps at it, pretty soon we're going to have a site full of super humans.....lol
    yeah plus staying in pfs will probably cause premature aging. I noticed I have a shitload of white hairs that weren't there before. not sleeping normally for a year will do that to a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    yeah plus staying in pfs will probably cause premature aging. I noticed I have a shitload of white hairs that weren't there before. not sleeping normally for a year will do that to a lot of people.
    I found this strange, but i've actually had several women tell me that they find salt and pepper facial hair attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I found this strange, but i've actually had several women tell me that they find salt and pepper facial hair attractive.

    I got a white as snow patch when I was in afghanaland. And I have white scattered all throughout. Girls always love the white hairs on my head. They’re like height ass Snow White. Now that I’m gorwing my hair out you really see them, and everyone digs them. So I agree here.

    How old is he? When I got to the end of the first post I was like this guy must be 21 or something. Sounds like Ippy lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tallstraw View Post
    I got a white as snow patch when I was in afghanaland. And I have white scattered all throughout. Girls always love the white hairs on my head. They’re like height ass Snow White. Now that I’m gorwing my hair out you really see them, and everyone digs them. So I agree here.

    How old is he? When I got to the end of the first post I was like this guy must be 21 or something. Sounds like Ippy lol
    Ippy......lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tallstraw View Post
    I got a white as snow patch when I was in afghanaland. And I have white scattered all throughout. Girls always love the white hairs on my head. They’re like height ass Snow White. Now that I’m gorwing my hair out you really see them, and everyone digs them. So I agree here.

    How old is he? When I got to the end of the first post I was like this guy must be 21 or something. Sounds like Ippy lol
    you got white from being in afghanastian. did it come back to normal? I had a stressful period in like 2015 and I got alopetia areata. huge bald spot surrounded with grey and it went away after i layed off the coffee and rested HARD for 3-4 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    you got white from being in afghanastian. did it come back to normal? I had a stressful period in like 2015 and I got alopetia areata. huge bald spot surrounded with grey and it went away after i layed off the coffee and rested HARD for 3-4 months.
    How much fucking coffee were you drinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    How much fucking coffee were you drinking?
    1-2 grandes a day. so between 300-600mg of caffeine a day. that's not what did me in though it was the combo of not sleeping enough / caffeine and working 80 hour work weeks. (was working in sales full time + my music full time). was trying to be superman lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    1-2 grandes a day. so between 300-600mg of caffeine a day. that's not what did me in though it was the combo of not sleeping enough / caffeine and working 80 hour work weeks. (was working in sales full time + my music full time). was trying to be superman lol
    Okay, so that's not too bad caffeine wise. But yeah, the combo of everything together wasn't the best, I agree.
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