DAA- your verdict?

[AresTS]

Yes, it is impossible to find something conclusive- personaly I had prolactin issues with DAA, but I had sometimes without DAA as well. Possibly it could be to E2-Thyroid connection or overstimulation of pituary? Some other complained as well about prolactin but bloodwork was insufficient.
It seems to me that it work bit better for people with low estrogen, but there again I have any proof.
Would be interesting to see how well it works for hypogonadal people with pituary issues and compare it with primary.
That one study was done in Italy and on healthy people as well, so another qustion is would it really make difference for people who have problem with cholesterol-testosterone conversion.

Vs primary - in my opinion it couldn't hold weight. The long term effects still have yet to be studied in relation to how long the test stays at the 47% advertised raise in T. And with the possible neurological side effects I don't know of a reason to opt for that over synthetic. Maybe to avoid shut down?

I don't run it anymore unless it is in PCT. I've tried it stand-alone, but it was for 6 weeks and only because it was a new form of it that was getting great reviews.

My only problem is with normal DAA that is a powder / liquid oral, it tears up my gut. There is a concentrated form in a pill called "Intimidate" that is fantastic and doesn't mess with my stomach at all.

It does work though, I don't have bloods to prove it, but the effects are there.

Yea, DAA will do that to ya, its not necessarily the "concentrated" version. Its N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid. Which one would think being an excitotoxin, would have the same worries as DAA but iForce's stance is that since its only 30mg (if I recall correctly) there shouldn't be an issue.

Excitotoxins (ibotenic acid, quinolinic acid, N-methyl-D-aspartic acid) that produce the greatest impairments in memory were found to produce the greatest depletion of choline acetyltransferase in the amygdala.

Excitotoxic lesions of rat basal forebr - PubMed Mobile

Is intimidate really that good? I feel like everyone says good things about it, but I dont have much faith in legal things these days.

With good reason

- Valdez

[Cobalt]

Its N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid.

There we go. I knew it wasn't "concentrated" but I couldn't remember it's technical name.

[markam]

I've used bulk DAA (terrible stomach issues), Tcf-1 pretty good, but still some issues,
Intimidate, no sides at all, but didn't feel it worked as well as Test-force 2 which also contains Sarcosine.
I felt that NMDAA enhanced my sleep and recovery, but got more wood on Test-force. I haven't seen any other DAA products using
Sarcosine, so maybe that's why the product works so well.

[Jelisej]

[QUOTE=AresTS;1187]Vs primary - in my opinion it couldn't hold weight. The long term effects still have yet to be studied in relation to how long the test stays at the 47% advertised raise in T. And with the possible neurological side effects I don't know of a reason to opt for that over synthetic. Maybe to avoid shut down?QUOTE

Raise in TT from DAA does not stay long- at least that was in my case, 3 weeks after DAA use(TCF1+Sustain Alpha) my tt was 691 ng/dl which is more-less my baseline.

[h2s]

Raise in TT from DAA does not stay long- at least that was in my case, 3 weeks after DAA use(TCF1+Sustain Alpha) my tt was 691 ng/dl which is more-less my baseline.

That is a fairly good baseline. How old are you?

[Jelisej]

That is a fairly good baseline. How old are you?

34. This summer- I had 632 ng/dl (ovetraining?) after 3 weeks of very light exercise it went up to 707 ng/dl. So bit of rest done better job than DAA.
Last year I've done tests in similar fashion only I was using my trademark- apple+mixed nut (fistful)+ some other fruit, plus vitamin D*, (I was using it for a couple of months before actual tests)
result was following: TT- 779 ng/dl , 3 weeks later TT was 837/ng/dl- but I must say that my thyroid was struggling a bit and my E2 was raising which further compromised thyroid so afterwards I took some AI.

As for vitamin D I was using 500IU before holidays, and on holidays I was using sunshine- I put olive oil on myself as it helps and then have a quick sunbathing.

As for baseline; normal tt levels are between 650-810 ng/dl.

[Avl]

DAA - tried it twice, once was TCF-1..ill never really use it again..im assuming it raised my prolacin to a point where i had to address it with P5P. i really didnt get any good effects from the stuff at all. ( assuming because i didnt get bloods done )..