Banned?! NOT In America! What it is, and what it does(to you)!

[longBallLima]

Nothing new about that "zeitgest." At least the first part anyway. Obviously government is necessary. Just not an over regulated hand holding socialist nanny state where you can't shit without someone telling you how many sheets of toilet paper to whipe your ass with. Asking a regulatory agency to simply do it's job would suffice. Keeping untested and un-researched poisons out of our food doesn't seem like asking too much.

right, i guess i just dont know which big industry here is over regulated, therefore, no idea where the fear of over regulation comes from.

[Cdsnuts]

right, i guess i just dont know which big industry here is over regulated, therefore, no idea where the fear of over regulation comes from.

When mayor Bloomberg in NYC tried to limit the size of soda you can buy because he thought people were too fat (and they are), that's over regulation. It may come from a geniune concern, but it's not the governments place to tell me how much soda I can buy and drink. Just one example.

The fear comes from not wanting to be over regulated.

[longBallLima]

When mayor Bloomberg in NYC tried to limit the size of soda you can buy because he thought people were too fat (and they are), that's over regulation. It may come from a geniune concern, but it's not the governments place to tell me how much soda I can buy and drink. Just one example.

The fear comes from not wanting to be over regulated.

having an obese population causes a series of health concerns, which seems to be the problem with the ingredient list we're discussing here, so what's the difference?

[Cdsnuts]

having an obese population causes a series of health concerns, which seems to be the problem with the ingredient list we're discussing here, so what's the difference?

Seriously?

The difference is personal choice.

That list is a series of chemicals that has no right to be included in the food supply. Most people are unaware of the dangers of such additives because they assume it's safe. They assume that because the regulatory agencies that are supposed to be watch dogs for this type of thing are asleep at the wheel. Corrupt. Politically and monetarily motivated, etc.

Everyone and their mother knows that if you drink gallons of soda everyday you're gonna turn into a fatass with diabetes. That doesn't mean I need big brother to watch me and tell me I can't buy two gallons of soda when I'm out to eat. If I choose to do that and I know the consequences of my actions, then that's on me.

People don't know the consequences of consuming these chemicals. They don't even know there are consequences for consuming them.

That my friend, is a BIG difference.

[longBallLima]

Seriously?

The difference is personal choice.

That list is a series of chemicals that has no right to be included in the food supply. Most people are unaware of the dangers of such additives because they assume it's safe. They assume that because the regulatory agencies that are supposed to be watch dogs for this type of thing are asleep at the wheel. Corrupt. Politically and monetarily motivated, etc.

Everyone and their mother knows that if you drink gallons of soda everyday you're gonna turn into a fatass with diabetes. That doesn't mean I need big brother to watch me and tell me I can't buy two gallons of soda when I'm out to eat. If I choose to do that and I know the consequences of my actions, then that's on me.

People don't know the consequences of consuming these chemicals. They don't even know there are consequences for consuming them.

That my friend, is a BIG difference.

one will kill you and "everyone" knows it, the other one will kill you and no one knows it. is that the big difference?

and i'll disagree that the common uneducated public has a full understanding of the consequences of drinking soda, ever been to a walmart? pretty sure almost everyone there thinks soda is not that bad and a just a little treat, as long as you buy the low fat ice cream.

that people will get up in arms like they did in NY because their fatass didn't wanna get up to buy another soda, then something like the NSA thing happens and there's not one NY-er going to the white house to bitch is, to me, a demonstration of how it is not about what they think is good for society, but just how anything affects their fat ass.

now, im not gonna take a big ban-soda stance and i can't say i necessarily agree with a complete ban, but if i'd have my way, they tax the shit out of soda and alcohol, much like it is done to tobacco and have the proceeds go to incentives to small farmers who don't grow corn

[Cdsnuts]

one will kill you and "everyone" knows it, the other one will kill you and no one knows it. is that the big difference?

Seems like a pretty big difference to me. The old adage of what you don't know won't hurt you comes to mind here. It certainly doesn't ring true.

[longBallLima]

Seems like a pretty big difference to me. The old adage of what you don't know won't hurt you comes to mind here. It certainly doesn't ring true.

i'm just not sure why you wouldn't suggest then awareness of the harmful effects of the ingredients in favor of a complete ban, so they are both on the same level, meaning, harmful and people know about it.