Hard to say. The problem that comes into play here is genetics. You may not have any issues at all FPR. Alot of guys don't. But then alot of guys don't have any drastic problems with propecia either. It's just a small subset of men who have a genetic disposition of being EXTREMELY sensitive to 5ar inhibition. You don't know if you are one of those guys unless you spin the wheel and see what happens.
I know I don't blame you for not wanting it to block 5ar....that feeling in the beginning is just so euphoric....until the crash. I also felt the same way when i first tried Stanzol. It was amazing. And then I woke up about 3 days in, in a panic because I could feel my mind/dick connection was gone. (No DHT) Sure enough, after some research, it was found that the active in Stanzol is also a very powerful 5ar inhibitor. For some reason many aromotase inhibitors also have an effect on 5ar, unfortunately.
So, given my history, these days I'm very careful before putting anything in my system. I have to be.
You could always run it for a week and see if you have any negative reactions.
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Not to rain on anyone's parade, looks like a good site and he seems like a cool dude, but I think pine pollen isn't all it's made out to be. the miniscule traces of whatever hormone it contains are much too little to have any physiological effect. And hormone precursors? well, there may be phytosterols and the like but again I very much doubt there are any hormonal effects. that's not to poopoo all the herbs, though, as many of those are quality herbs that I definitely have felt an effect from. i just really take issue with the marketing of pine pollen, perhaps because one of the main proponents of it is David Wolfe (David Douche) and the guy is not exactly a walking advertisement for healthy longevity and male prowess. Also read below his guide to hormonal optimization, it's pretty funny. If it were written in crayon you might think a fifth grader wrote it after reading some wikipedia articles.
http://www.thelongevitynowconference...Approach-1.pdf
Anyway, cool site. will have to get me some of those herbs
And you THINK this because of something you've read? Do you have any real world experience with it at all or you just hating on it because of DW (I also agree he is a douche and a charlatan)
I can tell you for a fact that the powder does indeed have a physiological response. It's one of my favorite herbs, hands down. I would almost call it life changing. Then again, if you're running a ton of AAS or prohormones, it's not gonna do shit. This is something when taken at your baseline will raise you up for sure. There is reason they have a "Wood guarantee" on their pine pollen. I wouldn't buy shit from DW because it's probably going to be over-hyped over marketed garbage. This my friend, is nothing like that. Why don't you buy some or maybe even ask them for a sample with something else?
To make the claims you've made without actually even trying it is pretty silly. Especially when there are so many people who are using it (me included) with awesome results.
Try it before you pass premature judgement. Just sayin.....
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I agree to this 100%
I have a bottle of the SuperMan Herbs Pine Pollen Tincture..from an awesome SS member!!
I can say packaging is awesome...came with nice directions and insert.
I started last night first dosage. Woke up this morning and another dosaging. I will be doing 2mL ED for 30 days and let u guys know my honest opinion.
I got my protocol from FreePress...he says wait until Day 2 for it to work.
I am currently running Epiandro at 400mgs ED..I am also using epimedium blend that I created on my own..libido is good..but would not mind improvements.
I will give as best feedback as I can. I have high hopes for this product...Tinctures in my experience are far better and misunderstood then they might appear on the surface.
I have an ephedra nevendesis tincture that I make myself..and that stuff is legit. Will open sinuses and breathing airways big time.
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I absolutely agree with this, 100%.
The idea behind the tincture is that you extract and greatly concentrate the androgens in the pollen. You don't have glowing review after glowing review for no reason. This stuff works.
Within 48 hours I was waking up with skin splitting nocturnal wood. My gym pumps are nearly as extreme as being on cycle. My recovery is enhanced and my body comp remains lean, tight and vascular. I am on the pollen and added in some other herbs from Super Man.
Don't knock it until you try it. The pollen tincture's less than $30. It's well worth it to try.
Can't wait to hear your results, Wes!