Clomid or Nolvadex which one to use

[5 alpha victim]

Ok, if that is the direction you want to go. I just dont want to use something that has an "unknown" variable which in my mind will add complexity.
The clit comment is more of a joke
However, I know before fin, anything that would possibly shrink my dick would scare the hell out of me (still does). If that was on the warning lable (or the new update of persistent side effects after stopping the drug), trust me, I would have never used it. Why go from large to average, that would just suck. How much of a reduction are we talking about btw?

Yea I here you. If I knew what I know now about how to get that extra boost in testosterone naturally I would have never have tried clomid or TRT.

I guess we can only learn from our experiences with what we take. It's hard to say for sure because I ignored it as much as I could but about a solid inch regardless of its state. Even before I got crazy about jumping on protocols to get better I had already recovered from the clomid sides/size reduction. With that said the clomid sides seem temporary.

As for now I'm almost done with PCT and I am deciding when I want to run another DHT prohormone cycle. Seeing that my first A300 cycle seems to have provided me with lasting benefits and seeing that I'm in the gym hard right now I may run another as early as Sept 1st. The lasting benefits in my case where not seen until I was well into PCT which I think is interesting.

[silverstrand]

Yea I here you. If I knew what I know now about how to get that extra boost in testosterone naturally I would have never have tried clomid or TRT.

I guess we can only learn from our experiences with what we take. It's hard to say for sure because I ignored it as much as I could but about a solid inch regardless of its state. Even before I got crazy about jumping on protocols to get better I had already recovered from the clomid sides/size reduction. With that said the clomid sides seem temporary.

As for now I'm almost done with PCT and I am deciding when I want to run another DHT prohormone cycle. Seeing that my first A300 cycle seems to have provided me with lasting benefits and seeing that I'm in the gym hard right now I may run another as early as Sept 1st. The lasting benefits in my case where not seen until I was well into PCT which I think is interesting.

Nice, I'm glad it was only temporary. Fin seems to have reduced my size just a little, maybe quarter of an inch. Pumping seems to improve the situation, can wait until my levels are normalized so I can experience some gains. I don't want much, just what I lost and a little more. As for running cycles, Im going to stick with running tests and modifying my plans as I go from there. These last results put to rest many false assumptions and pointed out other things that need more attention. I believe I dont have that much of an estrogen imbalance, something that can be resolved by using Sustain Alpha 2 to 3 times a week at most with one pump each dose. Waiting to see my next set of bloods in 5 more weeks or so. I want to be more calculated. It will cost more but dude, I'm so done allowing this to take time away from my life. Time is everything.

[5 alpha victim]

So your estrogen is not that out of control but your total and or free T is to low?

Have you tried cycling natty T boosters yet. Even though I have not verified this with blood work yet, I'm going by feel and it's obvious to me it works for increasing testosterone. It feels more like a slight increase but that's all thats probable really needed at the end of the day.

The pine pollen powder every day seems like a good thing to add on to a natty T boosting protocol. I'll verify everything with labs eventually but for now I'm just going by feel.

My insurance denied payment on the last set of labs I had done through an endo. I got stuck with a $1300 bill and had to appeal though my insurance to force them to pay. So for a while I need to lie low on trying to put labs through my insurance.

[keep]

Unfortunately, I have not recovered from the side effects of Tamoxifen (shrinkage of penis and worsening of ED). What medication can I try to reverse this? As far as I know Tamoxifen acts as an anti-estrogen in the breast but as an estrogen in the uterus/endometrium in females. I assume that it acts as an estrogen in males testicles/penis.

[silverstrand]

Unfortunately, I have not recovered from the side effects of Tamoxifen (shrinkage of penis and worsening of ED). What medication can I try to reverse this? As far as I know Tamoxifen acts as an anti-estrogen in the breast but as an estrogen in the uterus/endometrium in females. I assume that it acts as an estrogen in males testicles/penis.

How much did you use and how long did you use it for? Also any other sides like reduced night vision? How much of a reduction? There are others out here who have used it before and can give you better advice. It will probably be a good idea to get some lab work done and follow up with that information. Taking additional meds while in the dark to your numbers isn't the best way to go about it.

[keep]

How much did you use and how long did you use it for? Also any other sides like reduced night vision? How much of a reduction? There are others out here who have used it before and can give you better advice. It will probably be a good idea to get some lab work done and follow up with that information. Taking additional meds while in the dark to your numbers isn't the best way to go about it.

I took 20mg for the first couple of days, then 10mg, then 5mg. I took it for about two weeks. While I was on it I had hot flushes. No other side effects. The girth of my penis was reduced and more flaccid than before (hard to explain). I did several blood tests. They don't show much difference compared to those I took before Tamoxifen (my original problem was PFS).

[Brazilianguy]

So I decided to take clomid 12.5mg E3D. I'm feeling good, not as good as 20mg of nolvadex But its safer and I'll have less risk of estrogen rebound. Should I take low dosage of AI while doing it? i was thinking about taking .25mg of arimidex twice a week and continue for a week without clomid and then restart.

I'm asking about the AI because I had an estrogen rebound from nolvadex and got estrogen rebound that made my nipples burn and got puffy but clomid made them less puffy. I still have a little bit of gyno But when I felt better even without SERMs (with tribulus for instance) my gyno was cleared so basically is just more fat around breast that got corrected with better T:E.

Jelisej If you read this I read that you talked about low metabolic rate. How can I know that I have improvements in this department? I mean when I get a better baseline, more energy, libido and this improvements stay with me, that would mean that I got a better metabolic rate?

Thank you. I'm following the advices Jelisef and Nate gave me and already feeling improvements. I'm grateful.

[silverstrand]

So your estrogen is not that out of control but your total and or free T is to low?

Have you tried cycling natty T boosters yet. Even though I have not verified this with blood work yet, I'm going by feel and it's obvious to me it works for increasing testosterone. It feels more like a slight increase but that's all thats probable really needed at the end of the day.

The pine pollen powder every day seems like a good thing to add on to a natty T boosting protocol. I'll verify everything with labs eventually but for now I'm just going by feel.

My insurance denied payment on the last set of labs I had done through an endo. I got stuck with a $1300 bill and had to appeal though my insurance to force them to pay. So for a while I need to lie low on trying to put labs through my insurance.

My T is low, low 400's but so is my LH. I posted my test results. I believe my use of andractim and androhard suppressed my t production to some extent. I dont konw by how much but my DHT values were close to 3 times the high normal amount.

I wont really know until my next labs. I'm sure I have an estrogen issue but I believe it is secondary to the other parts of my system that got totally screwed up. I'm taking an indirect/natural approach and doing my homework. I do have T boosting herbs and I'm currently using them.