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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Okay...so a few things:

    You gotta get off the Wellbutrin, first and foremost. This chemical isn't going to let your brain heal the way it needs to. It's also going to cause downstream effects that aren't going to help you. It's also going to stop the herbs from working their total magic. No pharms...

    Definitely stop the gluten. You can still eat shitty out with clients without glutening yourself. Gluten can be responsible for so many negative mental aspects that it's alarming to say the least. Depression, anxiety and lethargy to name just a small few. I know people that have stopped gluten that said it was almost like a blanket came off of their head. It's also responsible for intestinal issues that tie back into brain health. You gotta get that out of your diet. Most people underestimate just how powerful a substance it is. For most, it's like night and day when the cut it out.

    Blatent sugar intake isn't the best, but no where near as damaging as the gluten. You should still avoid it though. The only sugar you should be getting is natural sugars from fruits and veggies.

    Another thing that I want to point out here is in regards to the wellbutrin use WHILE taking shilijat. Shilijat is known to increase the effectiveness of ANY other substance you take with it. Pharmaceuticals included. This is most definitely not a good thing in regards to antidepressants. You could be inadvertently making this drugs effect on your system stronger then it would be without it.

    So that's what I see right off the bat.

    How much longer until you can come off of that?
    I'm totally with you on the Wellbutrin. I crashed hard (I know you know the feeling) last half of last year and didn't know what to do. Hadn't discovered your protocol yet, so a very nice psychiatrist told me to get on Wellbutrin to help with the massive depression/suicidal thoughts. I'm doing much better now than I was then, and I've told her repeatedly I want to get off ASAP, but it's one of those things you need to taper down from. I see her again in April, in which case I will ask to start tapering off.

    Do you think another cleanse would be in order after I get off Wellbutrin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mal View Post
    I'm totally with you on the Wellbutrin. I crashed hard (I know you know the feeling) last half of last year and didn't know what to do. Hadn't discovered your protocol yet, so a very nice psychiatrist told me to get on Wellbutrin to help with the massive depression/suicidal thoughts. I'm doing much better now than I was then, and I've told her repeatedly I want to get off ASAP, but it's one of those things you need to taper down from. I see her again in April, in which case I will ask to start tapering off.

    Do you think another cleanse would be in order after I get off Wellbutrin?
    Yes, most definitely. I would opt for longer then five days, so if you can't get to a clinic, do juice for two weeks. This one thing alone will have a massive impact on your mental state. You'll stabilize during this time. Moreso then not doing one.

    And in the meantime I wouldn't take the shilijat until you're off ALL pharms. As a matter of fact, you're in a compromised situation right now and I don't think the herbs are going to be doing you much good until you can be free of it. You'll get some effects, but not what you should be getting.

    But for what you can do right now, stop the gluten for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Yes, most definitely. I would opt for longer then five days, so if you can't get to a clinic, do juice for two weeks. This one thing alone will have a massive impact on your mental state. You'll stabilize during this time. Moreso then not doing one.

    And in the meantime I wouldn't take the shilijat until you're off ALL pharms. As a matter of fact, you're in a compromised situation right now and I don't think the herbs are going to be doing you much good until you can be free of it. You'll get some effects, but not what you should be getting.

    But for what you can do right now, stop the gluten for sure.
    In that case, I'll lay off everything until I get off the Wellbutrin. Thanks for letting me know! Hopefully I haven't caused too many problems for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mal View Post
    In that case, I'll lay off everything until I get off the Wellbutrin. Thanks for letting me know! Hopefully I haven't caused too many problems for myself.
    I think that's a good idea. Focus on diet and all other aspects, cold showers, breathing, meditation, exercise, etc. Get off the junk, cleanse, and then hit it fresh.

    You'll be fine. Don't stress over it. Everything can be fixed.
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