Quote Originally Posted by Coolazice View Post
The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun. Bad guys will not willingly give up their guns. Disarming law-abiding citizens will not solve the problem!!!
this guy was a law abiding citizen, until he was not. holmes was a law abiding citizen, until he was not.

Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
I don't want to get too political in a thread where we are mostly just upset about the tragedy. But keep this in mind. Gun laws ONLY affect law abiding citizens. If the country outlawed guns, only the law abiding citizens would give up their guns. This renders them defenseless against those who do not abide by the law.

Furthermore, if everyone carried a side arm, how many people do you think the shooter in CO would have harmed? Crimes reduce drastically when people are not put in a position of being defenseless. Crime rates are statistically lower in states/countries with the most lenient gun laws. Unfortunately this latest tragedy was carried out against the most defenseless among us. I'm not afraid to say that I am glad he turned the gun on himself, because we do not need someone like that in our society.
if everyone carried a side arm, i would probably move. find a more advanced society where i don't have to be constantly ready to defend myself from deadly force because a law abiding citizen might just lose it and decide the law is not that important anymore.
Are we to arm and train the kindergarten teachers, so they can return fire? I, personally, don't believe that a military state where everyone is a little soldier, ready to kill is the safest or best to live and thrive in

As far as other countries in the world, although I believe different contexts require different rules, aside from Switzerland and Austria, i believe most of the countries with a low homicide rate have more restricted gun access than the US