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    Quote Originally Posted by The whit wagon View Post
    Hey man

    Cheers for the advice, how long have you been doing this and what percentage recovered do you think you are?
    Also whats your opinion on propecia help? I think that place is a fucking mess.
    Propecia help......sigh.

    If you want to dwell on how rightly fucked you are, hang out there, with that lot. Focus on the bad all the time and never the good, complain that 12 or so hours of the day is dark, as opposed to brightly lit half, you get the point.

    That site does a GREAT job of scaring the living shit out of anyone who spends time there.

    I get what you're feeling, but you're in it now regardless, so you have a choice to make. Either face, fix it and kick ass, or meekly survive by the doctors prescription pad which will do NOTHING but dig you deeper. Those are your choices.

    You're relatively young and even though you've been abusing the shit out of yourself, you've still managed to creep up a bit, symptom wise. I can tell you that if you keep on the road you're on, getting your dick back is gonna be a pain in the ass. You gotta go all in, or really, don't even bother going luke warm. IT NEVER works. I have yet to have somebody tell me that they've recovered by doing half this, half that, etc.

    You have to CHOOSE.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Hey CD thaks for the respsonse.

    I've put in some research and have some questions about the protocol I'm builidng my plan atm and this will help.

    Pine pollen. I take this everyday along with my herb rotation do I take this twice a day like all the other herbs and will i not build a tolerance.
    Also whats the difference between the extract and the raw powder, I know that the extract is more potent and am assuming it doesn't matter which i choose?

    I take each herb twice a day does that mean i take the recommended dose or that i take half the dose twice? This is just to i can budget my cycle properly.

    For diet we do paleo, would it be bad some days if I were to eat complex carbs before a workout say for breakfast just so I'm getting a good amount of calories in?
    Whats your opinion on milk should i switch to almond milk or can i intake it if its organic and grass fed? I assume I should stay away from the standard processed stuff.

    Also for a backoad can it be done in two parts or do i have to eat all the carbs at once? I think i could split it into two meals with proteins and fats if the first is the case.

    Finally, with the prohormone cycle I am quite prone to acne do you think i'll have a problem with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The whit wagon View Post
    Hey CD thaks for the respsonse.

    I've put in some research and have some questions about the protocol I'm builidng my plan atm and this will help.

    Pine pollen. I take this everyday along with my herb rotation do I take this twice a day like all the other herbs and will i not build a tolerance.
    Also whats the difference between the extract and the raw powder, I know that the extract is more potent and am assuming it doesn't matter which i choose?

    I take each herb twice a day does that mean i take the recommended dose or that i take half the dose twice? This is just to i can budget my cycle properly.

    For diet we do paleo, would it be bad some days if I were to eat complex carbs before a workout say for breakfast just so I'm getting a good amount of calories in?
    Whats your opinion on milk should i switch to almond milk or can i intake it if its organic and grass fed? I assume I should stay away from the standard processed stuff.

    Also for a backoad can it be done in two parts or do i have to eat all the carbs at once? I think i could split it into two meals with proteins and fats if the first is the case.

    Finally, with the prohormone cycle I am quite prone to acne do you think i'll have a problem with this?
    Pine pollen you can take everyday, and for this you want the powder. It's more complete and has more of the vitamins and minerals where as the tincture is more hormone based. They both have their place, but the powder is more suited for daily dosing. Regardless of which one you use, you WILL NOT build a tolerance to this compound as it seems to work with the body as opposed to against it. You won't get shut down from these natural compounds.

    Dosing herbs: You simply follow the dosing guidelines on the package. Usually 1 teaspoon twice a day, depending on the herb. As you get into the protocol and your body starts to heal, you will need less of the herb. That is when you can start lowering the doses of each one. But for the time being, take it as directed.

    No complex carbs during the day. Save it for the backloading window. If you need more calories in the a.m. get it from fat or protein.

    I don't drink milk, but if you can handle dairy, there is no reason to not have it. Obviously organic grass fed is the best, if you can find it, and afford it.

    When backloading, you don't do it all in one shot as that would be practically impossible. You start backloading in the evening and go on for the rest of the night, slamming carbs until your full. I would usually do it in 2-4 portions of carbs only.

    You may get acne on a DHT cycle. Honestly, that should be the least of your concerns, but yes, it's a possibility.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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