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    Ultra Hard Now Available from Iconic Formulations

    Ultra Hard : 28 applications @ 5 pumps
    375mg epiandro​
    125mg Androsterone

    This maintains the 3:1 ratio of Epiandrosterone to Androsterone that was used in the Primordial Performance AndroHard V3


    In the same famous gel carrier used for Dermacrine





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    Iconic Formulations - ULTRA HARD

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    Omg! Is it stronger than Muscle Gelz?

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    Definitely looks promising, might give this a shot in the future!

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    If anyone feels extra daring and wants to replicate R-Andro, use DHB with the compound. R-Andro contained Androsterone and DHB to enhance and prolong the effects of Androsterone. DHB is grapefruit extract. Grapefruit extract inhibits the CYP3A4 enzyme which is the enzyme that's responsible for metabolizing hormones out. Also the enzyme that metabolizes Fin and Dut out.

    https://www.mysupplementstore.com/pa...oxybergamottin

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP26 View Post
    If anyone feels extra daring and wants to replicate R-Andro, use DHB with the compound. R-Andro contained Androsterone and DHB to enhance and prolong the effects of Androsterone. DHB is grapefruit extract. Grapefruit extract inhibits the CYP3A4 enzyme which is the enzyme that's responsible for metabolizing hormones out. Also the enzyme that metabolizes Fin and Dut out.

    https://www.mysupplementstore.com/pa...oxybergamottin
    I wonder if this would work with the AH transdermal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    I wonder if this would work with the AH transdermal?
    It will, yes.

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    I don't believe the DHB would be beneficial while running ultra hard - with transdermal you're bypassing the first pass through the liver - where most of the loss occurs.

    some articles you may enjoy looking at:
    Transdermal Steroids – Expanded - iconicformulations

    Androsterone Lowers Cholesterol and Mimics Thyroid Hormone - iconicformulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP26 View Post
    Omg! Is it stronger than Muscle Gelz?
    yes, I believe this to be considerably stronger

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    Are there any retailers in europe?

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    Powermyself, JW and Predator carry our products but have not picked the new products yet (Ultra Hard, Alpha Seven, Alpha Four, Ultra Epi)...please contact your favorite retailer(s) and request they offer these

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    Quote Originally Posted by delsolrob View Post
    I don't believe the DHB would be beneficial while running ultra hard - with transdermal you're bypassing the first pass through the liver - where most of the loss occurs.

    some articles you may enjoy looking at:
    Transdermal Steroids – Expanded - iconicformulations

    Androsterone Lowers Cholesterol and Mimics Thyroid Hormone - iconicformulations

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    yes, I believe this to be considerably stronger
    Right. But the point isn't to compensate for loss but, rather, extend the half life. Androsterone only has a half life of about 30-60 minutes due to the fast metabolism that occurs from CYP3A4. Inhibiting CYP3A4 extends it considerably, according to studies. Otherwise, you'd have to add a methyl group to the molecule to extend the half life, like they did with Proviron with the DHT molecule.

    And good to note! @Cdsnuts, what say you about this?

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