X-Factor Advanced

[DJM]

noa man
going in circles with these products , cmon dude
its like my wife with shoes lol

jmo, but this stage in the game and your exp, money allocated to supps should be basic staples, 4 or so, and nothing else

[Coolazice]

noa man
going in circles with these products , cmon dude
its like my wife with shoes lol

jmo, but this stage in the game and your exp, money allocated to supps should be basic staples, 4 or so, and nothing else

This is exactly why I quit buying the 'muscle magazines' and why I don't spend much time on forums that heavily advertise and sell supplements. A lot of the marketing can be pretty convincing when we are, by nature, always looking for the next best thing. For the most part - if a supplement can't be found on a site like rxwhey, then it's probably not needed. Basically, if you want something that is effective for strength and growth, you need to shop better in the grocery stores and gain access to some real anabolics.

[O_RYAN_007]

This is exactly why I quit buying the 'muscle magazines' and why I don't spend much time on forums that heavily advertise and sell supplements. A lot of the marketing can be pretty convincing when we are, by nature, always looking for the next best thing. For the most part - if a supplement can't be found on a site like rxwhey, then it's probably not needed. Basically, if you want something that is effective for strength and growth, you need to shop better in the grocery stores and gain access to some real anabolics.

WELL SAID! Damn magazines get you feeling like you're too small and not muscular enough and you need to buy their products to get jacked. IDK man, thats why I just eat, lift, sleep, fk, work, and watch prn!

[Rulk]

I was under the impression that X-Gels were less expensive than X-Factor? Am I wrong?

Cheaper than Original XFactor, but the advanced was a whole 50 day cycle for 15$ less.

noa man
going in circles with these products , cmon dude
its like my wife with shoes lol

jmo, but this stage in the game and your exp, money allocated to supps should be basic staples, 4 or so, and nothing else

And to address H2's question. Simply out of curiosity and something to do while I am natural. I am close to dabbling in the darkside, but I need to get the Mrs. pregnant before I start messing with my balls. I am sure it's 99% mental, but I seem to respond well to supplements, but I feel I have hit close to my natual limit ( muscle growth ). Not bragging, but it seems I am stronger and bigger than most average gym rats, being natural. I just need to lose the fat to have a nice looking physique. I could even do it without "assistance", seeing as my brother competes natty and looks great. I would mostly do what Matt Porter suggest, and only use "assistance", while leaning out. I have not fully pulled the trigger on everything I need to do, but I know what I need to do to get there. It's all mental.

[O_RYAN_007]

Cheaper than Original XFactor, but the advanced was a whole 50 day cycle for 15$ less.

And to address H2's question. Simply out of curiosity and something to do while I am natural. I am close to dabbling in the darkside, but I need to get the Mrs. pregnant before I start messing with my balls. I am sure it's 99% mental, but I seem to respond well to supplements, but I feel I have hit close to my natual limit ( muscle growth ). Not bragging, but it seems I am stronger and bigger than most average gym rats, being natural. I just need to lose the fat to have a nice looking physique. I could even do it without "assistance", seeing as my brother competes natty and looks great. I would mostly do what Matt Porter suggest, and only use "assistance", while leaning out. I have not fully pulled the trigger on everything I need to do, but I know what I need to do to get there. It's all mental.

Then why not go the pep route? I know you want to get the Mrs. prego, but you can use peps to help you lean out, get good quality lbm, great night sleep, and AMAZING recovery! Prob cheaper around the same you pay for the X-Factor.