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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Seriously?

    The difference is personal choice.

    That list is a series of chemicals that has no right to be included in the food supply. Most people are unaware of the dangers of such additives because they assume it's safe. They assume that because the regulatory agencies that are supposed to be watch dogs for this type of thing are asleep at the wheel. Corrupt. Politically and monetarily motivated, etc.

    Everyone and their mother knows that if you drink gallons of soda everyday you're gonna turn into a fatass with diabetes. That doesn't mean I need big brother to watch me and tell me I can't buy two gallons of soda when I'm out to eat. If I choose to do that and I know the consequences of my actions, then that's on me.

    People don't know the consequences of consuming these chemicals. They don't even know there are consequences for consuming them.

    That my friend, is a BIG difference.
    one will kill you and "everyone" knows it, the other one will kill you and no one knows it. is that the big difference?

    and i'll disagree that the common uneducated public has a full understanding of the consequences of drinking soda, ever been to a walmart? pretty sure almost everyone there thinks soda is not that bad and a just a little treat, as long as you buy the low fat ice cream.

    that people will get up in arms like they did in NY because their fatass didn't wanna get up to buy another soda, then something like the NSA thing happens and there's not one NY-er going to the white house to bitch is, to me, a demonstration of how it is not about what they think is good for society, but just how anything affects their fat ass.

    now, im not gonna take a big ban-soda stance and i can't say i necessarily agree with a complete ban, but if i'd have my way, they tax the shit out of soda and alcohol, much like it is done to tobacco and have the proceeds go to incentives to small farmers who don't grow corn
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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    one will kill you and "everyone" knows it, the other one will kill you and no one knows it. is that the big difference?
    Seems like a pretty big difference to me. The old adage of what you don't know won't hurt you comes to mind here. It certainly doesn't ring true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Seems like a pretty big difference to me. The old adage of what you don't know won't hurt you comes to mind here. It certainly doesn't ring true.
    i'm just not sure why you wouldn't suggest then awareness of the harmful effects of the ingredients in favor of a complete ban, so they are both on the same level, meaning, harmful and people know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    i'm just not sure why you wouldn't suggest then awareness of the harmful effects of the ingredients in favor of a complete ban, so they are both on the same level, meaning, harmful and people know about it.
    They're harmful on two totally different levels.

    Awareness would work, but do you think it's completely necessary to have poison in the food supply? Soda's ingredients are bad for you, but they aren't straight up poison. That's what those chemicals are. Poison, plain and simple.

    Would you be okay if they started putting small amounts of arsenic in the food as a preservative as long as everyone was told about it? To me this is the same exact thing.

    It's not food, and it has no place in food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    They're harmful on two totally different levels.

    Awareness would work, but do you think it's completely necessary to have poison in the food supply? Soda's ingredients are bad for you, but they aren't straight up poison. That's what those chemicals are. Poison, plain and simple.

    Would you be okay if they started putting small amounts of arsenic in the food as a preservative as long as everyone was told about it? To me this is the same exact thing.

    It's not food, and it has no place in food.
    we might have to agree to disagree here. a number of additives in soda such as coloring are not food. carbonation itself has no place in food, IMO.

    IMO both are bad and both should be regulated. since people get extra butthurt over something being taken away, i dont see soda as that harmful that you could just overtax it, but i'm still in favor of "big brother" putting its fingers in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    we might have to agree to disagree here. a number of additives in soda such as coloring are not food. carbonation itself has no place in food, IMO.

    IMO both are bad and both should be regulated. since people get extra butthurt over something being taken away, i dont see soda as that harmful that you could just overtax it, but i'm still in favor of "big brother" putting its fingers in there.
    Not might...were going to disagree here.

    Some things are more harmful then others, period. When you look at that list and the effects of those chemicals and think that's okay to include in the food chain.....well to each their own I guess. To me it's crazy.

    What you're in favor of is a slippery slope. First it starts off with telling us how much soda we can buy, and next it's how many kids we can have and how many nights a week we can bang our wives. It starts off small and grows......if they can tell us how much soda to buy, where does the line get drawn?

    Slippery slope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Not might...were going to disagree here.

    Some things are more harmful then others, period. When you look at that list and the effects of those chemicals and think that's okay to include in the food chain.....well to each their own I guess. To me it's crazy.

    What you're in favor of is a slippery slope. First it starts off with telling us how much soda we can buy, and next it's how many kids we can have and how many nights a week we can bang our wives. It starts off small and grows......if they can tell us how much soda to buy, where does the line get drawn?

    Slippery slope.
    disagree with bold. there is a number of things that are prohibited despite opinion and we haven't slipped into a police state because of it.

    gays not being allowed to marry and pot and lsd being made illegal didn't turn into men in black coming into my house to check whether im banging my wife or not.

    to me, the slippery slope lies into how complacent society is to things like the NSA bit. all the effort put into finding the leaker rather than being liable for the illegal invasion of privacy.
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