Pros/Cons of TRT

[weekend]

The information about thyroid is a big turn off for using TRT in general. What do you think about cycling jelisej?

And have you ever used ecstasy, LSD or cocaine?

[O.N.]

Why not look into low dose aromasin if nothing else is working for you.

[BBG]

Why not look into low dose aromasin if nothing else is working for you.

1000x this.

[ironjulius]

The biggest reasons I can think of to do TRT is: life goals, peace of mind, loving my own personality more.

-I find that I am more goal oriented on it, I could easily see it being the difference between a sick waterfront house and a small apartment life in the long run.

-I find myself worrying about things too much with no drive to change them.

-I am funnier, more confident, more carefree, and more willing to accept myself for who I am. People seem to like me more as well.

i started TRT 2 years ago 100mg every week and it made a positive change to my well being on so many levels. honestly knowing how much better i feel at 32 i wouldve got on TRT at 22. you could freeze your sperm in case you decide on having kids. someone suggested a low dose AI and i would try that

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[weekend]

i'm still on 25 aromasin ED... the only PCT type drug i am taking and its keeping my estrogen where i've felt good in the past, it's at 25 pg/ml now.

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i kind of worry about freezing my sperm because who knows what that could do to the genetic material. i am CERTAIN i want kids.

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jelisej are you saying i can't feel better on trt for more than a few months then? i will just go back to feeling crappy and have low thyroid?

[BoneDaddy]

i'm still on 25 aromasin ED... the only PCT type drug i am taking and its keeping my estrogen where i've felt good in the past, it's at 25 pg/ml now.

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i kind of worry about freezing my sperm because who knows what that could do to the genetic material. i am CERTAIN i want kids.

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jelisej are you saying i can't feel better on trt for more than a few months then? i will just go back to feeling crappy and have low thyroid?

Hasn't happened to met yet, I'm what....7 months in now......

[O.N.]

Ok so if you are taking aromasin now don't you feel good enough on that?
what dose and how often are you taking it?

[Jelisej]

jelisej are you saying i can't feel better on trt for more than a few months then? i will just go back to feeling crappy and have low thyroid?

No, what I say that initally person gets a quite decent improvement in libido and wellbeing in general, but later its effect is not as good, so for some people benefits are not worth it- for example lets say there are 2 persons A and B both unhappy with their sex life- lets say that A has on average sex once in fortnight or 0.5 times a week and person B has on average sex 2 times a week (BTW average married couple has sex between 2-3 times a week), anway lets say these guys go on liberal TRT regimen so both are expected to have a "high" first- for person A it may improve to the point he will have sex 4X a week, and person B may have a 5X- after certain time frequency will probably go down- so for A it will be 2X a week, and for person B it may be 3X a week
So now we can say that both had improvement, and we all can agree that person A benefited greatly- and his TRT is success, on other hand person B improved as well- but we can debate is his improvement really worth all the humdrum?

What sides can both of them expect? If we assume that person A had low test. to start with and now he is in good range- probably he will only benefit from TRT tough he may need to add some thyroid hormones, he may even need to boost his adrenals- neverthless its definitely worth it, as he is now normal person
on other hand person B which may have slightly lower hormone levels with adding synthetic hormones may not feel much improvement, he may or may not need adding other stuff but if he decides to go bit higher than probably he will have to add (at some point in future) other stuff as well- so now he feels more improvement but he has to on top of injecting 3X a week probably add T4 every day, plus maybe T3 few times a day, and if his cortisol is not good enough he will need to take some either synthetic cortisol- all in all IMO TRT for him is not worth it, as before he did not need to take anything and was still OK- if this person was not too long on TRT he will probably try to get off.
I hope this kind of explains things a bit.

Now, lets get back to reality and let see where you stand: AFAIK- you are good looking, healthy, well built, strong young man with very decent total testosterone levels- so basically you dont have a single good reason to go on TRT, because from experience of others and mine as well- natural and synthetic testosterone is not quite te same- while "normal" person with 700-800 ng/dl of TT feels quite good, person on TRT usually needs to be much higher to feel the same

Now, I'll share my own personal experience, an I experienced "all shades of gray" as young man I probably had high TT levels (even in recent years sometimes I would be tested at 800 ng/dl) and also I had been tested with low levels (and had other issues) and I can say that being on synthetic testosterone is good, much, much better than with low- but at any given dose (even with adding thyroid or adrenal support and getting very good numbers) I could never feel as good as I felt as a teenager with natural high levels, and basically I felt that having mediocre testosterone levels and mediocre sex life is better than all the medication... I could not wait to get off... And, in my honest opinion- its better to find a girlfriend which has lower libido than trying to match with nymphomaniac.

Again, coming back to your case- I dont think you would need a thyroid or adrenal meds, at least not at the moment- as in reality you would just more-less substitute natural for synthetic testosterone. Even if you would go bit higher- you would probably be OK for sometime, maybe 5 maybe 10 years- who knows?
After all- human body is very adaptable and durable and even people with very unhealthy lifestyle can go on for years before suffering serious consequences. It usually takes 10 years or bit more till heart attack for sedentary person with very unhealthy diet.

Overall- if you have certain issues I dont think they are because of other reasons than testosterone levels.

[BBG]

(BTW average married couple has sex between 2-3 times a week)

lol in what world is that

[Jelisej]

lol in what world is that

I'm not sure if it should be read as 2-3 days a week?
Anyway, few independent researches suggest this figure, it kind-of-sounds right to me- I beleive that it excludes teenagers otherwise figure would be much higher.

If you ask Ippy- you'll probably get 10X that