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[lastnoirking87]

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[Zerolibido]

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[MungYarlon]

Back for another update after a long hiatus. It doesn't seem like it's really been 8.5 months since I last posted, but I've also noticed my perception of time has been very strange since the start of PFS. I get so caught up in my day to day protocol quota that I totally lose track of an entire week at times.
For the most part, I've stuck to the same program that brought me success since the beginning. Only changes have been the occasional workout schedule shift and the introduction of Bulbine Natalensis (Barlowes brand) to my herb rotation.
On the side of symptoms and healing progress, that continues to move forward as well. I can't say I have had many bad downswings since my last post, but there was one mild one that lasted a couple of weeks back in July.
Other than that one, from which I bounced back with an insanely strong upswing, I'm still just getting these mini downswings (dips, as I call them) here and there, lasting for maybe a few days at worst. Aside from the negatives, I've had a series of long upswings this year, some kind of seemingly building on one another, only interrupted by a short dip of a few days or so before taking off again. It's a little difficult to precisely explain, but the long in the short of it is that they seem to be getting much longer, and stronger, and I can almost see how I will eventually take off on an upswing that basically just keeps going (i.e., complete recovery will be attained)
Hair fall has picked up pace more and more, and it is almost back to its pre-PFS rate, but not entirely. Ive also noticed that my body odor waxes and wanes in direct relation to my hormonal health, for whatever that's worth.
I mentioned the bulbine natalensis herb earlier, and just want to say that I personally am in love with this one. I only take one capsule on that day, as recommended, and I think 9 out of 10 times so far I have had an extremely positive reaction. One of those times I just didn't feel anything, as occasionally happens with many of the herbs.
One last little story I'll relay to you regards creatine. I finally decided to start creatine abut a week ago, and ordered Naked brand. I dosed at 5 grams for about 6 days, and began to feel pretty bad a few days in. I still don't know, and will probably never know, if this was directly caused by the creatine, but I sort of flipped out over the possibility of having fucked myself, and in a fit of rage, grabbed the 2 lb container and ran outside and dumped it all out. That was earlier today. Im.not sure how I feel about that choice of action now, but suffice it to say I will likely be waiting until full recovery before I revisit the creatine situation 😀

I'd avoid creatine for the time being. I have anecdotal evidence from some individuals who tried it and felt worse on it. Focus on the protocol for now, and add creatine once recovered (if you still want to...).

[lastnoirking87]

I'd avoid creatine for the time being. I have anecdotal evidence from some individuals who tried it and felt worse on it. Focus on the protocol for now, and add creatine once recovered (if you still want to...).

Hello there, and thanks for the input. I have come to the conclusion that the creatine absolutely did something to throw me off. My brain fog came back, and some sexu sides as well, which are again fluctuating.
Obviously a ridiculous decision to try anything outside what was working I guess, but in retrospect, I can't find much negative coverage of creatine on this site; only on the "other one."
Can you tell me what your take is on what you've read about creatine crashes? Do you think this going to be a major problem for me, or do people typically bounce back from it? I am trying to avoid doing much reading on it because I know how psychological stress can worsen everything...

[MungYarlon]

Hello there, and thanks for the input. I have come to the conclusion that the creatine absolutely did something to throw me off. My brain fog came back, and some sexu sides as well, which are again fluctuating.
Obviously a ridiculous decision to try anything outside what was working I guess, but in retrospect, I can't find much negative coverage of creatine on this site; only on the "other one."
Can you tell me what your take is on what you've read about creatine crashes? Do you think this going to be a major problem for me, or do people typically bounce back from it? I am trying to avoid doing much reading on it because I know how psychological stress can worsen everything...

All I remember reading is some medical student on reddit saying that he'd gotten brain fog from creatine (this was 3 years ago so cant remember his name). It went away after a few weeks though so I wouldn't worry.

Maybe do a week juice fast if you can, but I wouldn't worry too much.

[Zerolibido]

Creatine won't crash you if you're in a good place

Wish I'd cure Is it my baseline was so say me on zinc and vitamin d

Ducking spastic awor out me off I hate Worthing

[lastnoirking87]

All I remember reading is some medical student on reddit saying that he'd gotten brain fog from creatine (this was 3 years ago so cant remember his name). It went away after a few weeks though so I wouldn't worry.

Maybe do a week juice fast if you can, but I wouldn't worry too much.

Thanks again. Thats a reassuring bit of info. I'm intentionally not digging too deep into this, as I think it's likely going to prove to be a short downswing of sorts while my system re-stabilizes. Here I was thinking I was in a secure enough position to add in a single new thing with mostly good reviews even from PFSers (at least here on SS). I only found the negative stuff after the fact. I will admit that LetsGo did make mention of his knowledge of negative experiences from it. I thought I'd let myself have some fun with the bodybuilding aspect of the protocol.
Personally, I would advise all PFSers to stay away from creatine.
Looks like it's back to the bare bones for me. I've doubled down on breathing exercises, which seems to be helping a lot. Good lord, I really would like to avoid a fast right now as I'm so damn entrenched in the muscle building process 🫣 but it's probably good advice 👍

[MungYarlon]

Thanks again. Thats a reassuring bit of info. I'm intentionally not digging too deep into this, as I think it's likely going to prove to be a short downswing of sorts while my system re-stabilizes. Here I was thinking I was in a secure enough position to add in a single new thing with mostly good reviews even from PFSers (at least here on SS). I only found the negative stuff after the fact. I will admit that LetsGo did make mention of his knowledge of negative experiences from it. I thought I'd let myself have some fun with the bodybuilding aspect of the protocol.
Personally, I would advise all PFSers to stay away from creatine.
Looks like it's back to the bare bones for me. I've doubled down on breathing exercises, which seems to be helping a lot. Good lord, I really would like to avoid a fast right now as I'm so damn entrenched in the muscle building process 🫣 but it's probably good advice 👍

You'll be fine. If you want to build more muscle consider the prohormones, they have the added benefit of increasing 5-ar activity which will boost DHT and GABA.

I know CD advocated use of creatine but I find its hit or miss with a lot of people, so I never took the risk with it. fwiw I'm thinking about running a pro-hormone cycle in the next few weeks. Never really ran one during my recovery so want to see how I feel on them.

[lastnoirking87]

You'll be fine. If you want to build more muscle consider the prohormones, they have the added benefit of increasing 5-ar activity which will boost DHT and GABA.

I know CD advocated use of creatine but I find its hit or miss with a lot of people, so I never took the risk with it. fwiw I'm thinking about running a pro-hormone cycle in the next few weeks. Never really ran one during my recovery so want to see how I feel on them.

Yeah, I actually still have my ultrahard bottles I bought at the beginning of everything. They expire in November I think, but I've rely just not felt the need at all for anything other than the bare bones protocol on tmo.com.I seem to be a hyper responder to herbs🌿 ive had consistently stronger and stronger upswings, and improvement after every one for the last 1.5 years, so I figure, why mess with a good thing?
my decision to incorporate creatine was just a desire to have some fun with body comp.
Having said all that, I still haven't entirely ruled out PHs. I do want to get my estrogen checked before I do them however, and at this point I really must recover my baseline health from before the creatine debacle before I consider doing ANYTHING out of my ordinary. Secondly, I think I need a better understanding of how we are supposed to modulate use of ultrahard and alpha four if needed. I need a clearer picture of what symptoms necessitate use of one or the other, and I honestly haven't gotten a clear understanding of that in all of my reading on here 🤷‍♂️
Please keep us posted on how your PH run goes. I know it seems like Noone uses the forum, but when I go to specific user profiles I notice people are indeed "active," i.e., likely just lurking around like I do for months sometimes.