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    Quote Originally Posted by AltRoute View Post
    CD quick question.. before the fast in the month I was full throttle on protocol, I’ve been carb backloading after regular lifting days. I noticed on TMO that carbs were strictly under the heavy lifting portion. Once I get off my fast/ refeed, is it ok to still carb load on regular workout days or would you consider it a make or break in recovery? I was in the mix of transitioning to heavy lifts before I hopped on WF
    Not make or break, but backloading is HUGE concerning general physical development, which in turn, helps general recovery, so up to you. The heavier you lift, the more you should backload, etc.

    I had the eyelid thing too......your brain just isn't ready yet....but EVERYTHING that Ratchet said was dead on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchet_V2 View Post
    Discipline and routine. Are you going to bed at the same time every night? Are you going outside and getting 30 minutes of light when you wake up in the morning? Are you avoiding screens of all kinds at least an hour before bed? Are you using your bed solely for sleeping and sex?

    I think that most supplements are bandaids when it comes to sleep. And then a lot of guys become dependent on them and never address the fundamental issues that are really driving their insomnia.

    I was a perfect sleeper prior to PFS, and then overnight, I wasn’t anymore. I’d wake up EXACTLY four hours after falling asleep and then would toss and turn every hour after that. I also had the sleepless nights that are unavoidable at first with PFS. Even after loading melatonin XRs and whatever other shit I thought would help, ultimately, it was developing a sleep routine, getting light in the morning, and avoiding screens before bed that brought me to where I am now. It probably took 2-3 months to really establish before I started falling asleep quickly and sleeping through the night. One of the best things I ever did.

    I never had any issues keeping my eyelids shut, but I did frequently have a weird experience where I would see strobe-like bright flashes of muffled light, like I was looking into a thunderstorm cloud or moving through one tunnel after another really fast, until I fell asleep. It would also seem very bright at times, like I was looking directly into a light with my eyes shut, even though my room was completely blacked out. Shit sucked. I kind of just accepted it and eventually it passed like everything else.
    Good one^^^^^^
    Last edited by Cdsnuts; 01-26-2022 at 03:03 PM.
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