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    stano, trenazone, mechabol stack

    I loved the Mech / TZ / AM / AH stack . It was a great recomp cycle @ 11 wks for me with incredible endurance and healing properties. I used Toco 8 and Talos the entire cycle as support. Aegis while running Mech. BP was my main concern because I ran Mech (@150) and TZ (up to 4ml) with high doses. Talos handled it though.

    I had a few back pumps towards the end of wk5-6 (ran Mech wk1-6) but taurine took them away. Great run for me, I never wanted to leave the gym!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucks View Post
    I loved the Mech / TZ / AM / AH stack . It was a great recomp cycle @ 11 wks for me with incredible endurance and healing properties. I used Toco 8 and Talos the entire cycle as support. Aegis while running Mech. BP was my main concern because I ran Mech (@150) and TZ (up to 4ml) with high doses. Talos handled it though.

    I had a few back pumps towards the end of wk5-6 (ran Mech wk1-6) but taurine took them away. Great run for me, I never wanted to leave the gym!
    I was close to adding hard to my last mech/tren run in november... i was shopping around when the shit went down, I missed out.

    11 weeks, what was the layout? pct? no other support or sides?
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    the var i'm on i'm finding quite close to the hard v2 I took, not quite as much muscle hardening yet anyway, but everything else is very similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxiv View Post
    I have been looking for a toco substitute, not just for pct but as a daily. The red palm oil is great for cooking but lacks potency, I am going to try tocosorb.



    I have a weird shaped head so I need to try to preserve what I have.
    I use toco everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    the var i'm on i'm finding quite close to the hard v2 I took, not quite as much muscle hardening yet anyway, but everything else is very similar
    var you say.....

    QUOTE=O_RYAN_007;21028]I use toco everyday[/QUOTE]
    i wish i'd stocked up, i kinda figured eric would have re-released his staple products after he reorganized.
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    the var I took didn't have the same great hardness I experienced from AHV1 or AHV2, it was good though. Now strength is a different story.

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    i'm finding less hardness too

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    but I mean if you can't find ah, then....

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    Re: stano, trenazone, mechabol stack

    Apparently var isn't what it used to be, because in the old days 15-20mg/day of var would blow away any version of AH at any dosage in muscle hardness, strength, and crazy pumps in the gym.
    Last edited by burlyman30; 05-28-2013 at 10:33 PM.
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    im guessing 10 mg pills of var today might contain 2.5-5 mg var...

    but then again i want to believe the ones i took contained 10! lol

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    stano, trenazone, mechabol stack

    Quote Originally Posted by xxiv View Post
    I was close to adding hard to my last mech/tren run in november... i was shopping around when the shit went down, I missed out.

    11 weeks, what was the layout? pct? no other support or sides?

    AM-9 AH-6 wk 1-11
    Mech wk 1-6
    TZ wk 4-10r
    Ment preworkout wk 7-11

    Torem + TRS + Stano tapered down in PCT Letro at the end

    3.5ml was the sweet spot on TZ for me. Higher I couldn't do cardio well, as I seemed to run out of air as my heart rate increased.
    Only other side was about 3 headaches wk 2 of TZ. Joints felt great during this and I stopped my joint support.

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