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    Established Member Feedback Score 2 (100%) pitboss's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    Odd. I had no such problems. No doubt the burning is from the alcohol base, but unless the skin was raw from something else, I can't see why the effects were so pronounced.
    6 weeks of 1.5 ml on the clavs, not one issue. And I have sensitive skin becasue I'm a girly man .....

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    Re: Trenazone/4-DHEA Transdermal

    Quote Originally Posted by pitboss View Post
    6 weeks of 1.5 ml on the clavs, not one issue. And I have sensitive skin becasue I'm a girly man .....
    Will test it for the next weeks on neck and clavs
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    Trenazone/4-DHEA Transdermal

    Quote Originally Posted by nate3993 View Post
    glass of grapefruit juice. that's gonna be your best bet
    That's a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hook View Post
    That's a bad idea.
    ^^^^^ And that's a bad post!

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    Trenazone/4-DHEA Transdermal

    Quote Originally Posted by markam View Post
    ^^^^^ And that's a bad post!
    Why? We have gone over this a couple times here. It's silly to continue to ignore science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hook View Post
    Why? We have gone over this a couple times here. It's silly to continue to ignore science.
    I was under the impression that your opinion was disagreed with by many, but whatever.

    The post was bad because you didn't give any proof to back up your opinion.
    Last edited by markam; 04-26-2013 at 11:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markam View Post
    I was under the impression that your opinion was disagreed with by many, but whatever.

    The post was bad because you didn't give any proof to back up your opinion.
    I dont recall anyone even disputing it. The only valid argument was anecdotal "well I got gains", which may be true but I suspect its simply because naringenin isn't a complete inhibitor of conversion enzymes.

    I think OP should stick to his original plan for the best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hook View Post
    I dont recall anyone even disputing it. The only valid argument was anecdotal "well I got gains", which may be true but I suspect its simply because naringenin isn't a complete inhibitor of conversion enzymes.

    I think OP should stick to his original plan for the best results.

    Couple things. What made the androseries so well absorbed? Gfj. And there are many, many things in GFJ besides naringen that may be contributing to increased absorption. Andromass v3 had 4DHEA. That was the mass part of it.

    GFJ works. I know you've said this before, but no matter what, the Androseries was backed up by just a lil bit of science.

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    Trenazone/4-DHEA Transdermal

    Quote Originally Posted by nate3993 View Post
    Couple things. What made the androseries so well absorbed? Gfj. And there are many, many things in GFJ besides naringen that may be contributing to increased absorption. Andromass v3 had 4DHEA. That was the mass part of it.

    GFJ works. I know you've said this before, but no matter what, the Androseries was backed up by just a lil bit of science.
    No it was not the gfj. It was the Esterfied hormone. Increasing bioavailability is useless if plasma and target tissue conversion enzymes are depleted. Which are necessary for anabolic action.

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    Haha. Bioavailability doesn't have much to do with it? So it's the ester huh? Well. Test has an ester. Maybe I should just drink a vial of T.

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