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    I know that feel with ladies calling during the workout. If my girlfriend calls in the middle I always fuckin answer out of habit but it ends up ruining my session!!! Gah!

    Are you on tren now or just TRT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    I know that feel with ladies calling during the workout. If my girlfriend calls in the middle I always fuckin answer out of habit but it ends up ruining my session!!! Gah!

    Are you on tren now or just TRT?
    TRT + 100/wk tren and just added in deca @200/wk for the old man joints. Also doing ghrp-2/mod GRF 4x/day. The healing and recovery of the peptides has been tren-like in my experience.
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    Burly Decides to Bench Again...

    Would increased test alone help the joints?

    Because, my friend, trust me, you have no idea what OLD MAN joints are. 😢
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sperwer View Post
    Would increased test alone help the joints?

    Because, my friend, trust me, you have no idea what OLD MAN joints are. ��
    Haha... ok, you win for old man joints on this forum. As far as test at TRT levels, I have not found it helpful for the joints. Possibly at higher levels where the resultant aromatization of estrogen might cushion and lubricate the joints. I really don't have experience using test in high doses for any length of time where I could assess that, but maybe someone else here could add to this.

    I can't up my test levels at this time, as I keep getting bloodwork done every 2-3 months, but deca is a known performer when it comes to soothing dry or achy joints. And it doesn't take a lot. I've run it at 150/wk and gotten relief.
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    nice, with those two 19 nors and the peptides that's a true blast!

    no wonder tha gains.

    watch out for tren causing a high e2 reading... not sure if myth but better safe eh.

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    do you notice a rebound when coming off the deca? or do you think it actually allows healing?

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    Re: Burly Decides to Bench Again...

    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    nice, with those two 19 nors and the peptides that's a true blast!

    no wonder tha gains.

    watch out for tren causing a high e2 reading... not sure if myth but better safe eh.

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    do you notice a rebound when coming off the deca? or do you think it actually allows healing?
    I keep the doses low. Just enough for desired effect. 100/WK tren enhances recovery and is good while on my maintenance calorie diet. Deca for joints and muscle fullness, but a high dose isn't needed. Peptides for additional healing and enhanced fat burning. Not sure I'd qualify this as a true blast because of the dosage levels... its more of a cruise in my mind.

    On tren and e2... I get blood work done every 2-3 months and e2 is good. Part of my TRT protocol includes anastrozole 1mg EOD and raloxifene 60mg ED. This keeps me in range.

    On deca... not a rebound, but a lessening of the lubrication, which is to be expected when you stop using it. But there's no "OMG my joints are killing me now" rebound. I do think that over time it can and will build/enhance connective tissue.
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    This may be of interest:

    https://www.facebook.com/SuppVersity...73798609318959


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    ah, i had heard that tren can be MISTAKEN for e2 on some blood tests. like your actual e2 is 10 and it still shows as 400. because of the tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sperwer View Post
    This may be of interest:

    https://www.facebook.com/SuppVersity...73798609318959


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    Interesting, as this seems to contradict previous studies that showed the opposite effect. Definitely worth keeping an eye on this and future studies. I've always known that AAS are known for building muscle faster than tendon, but even naturally, we tend to build muscle faster than tendon. I've seen several studies that do show adaptive response of tendons in many different AAS, so while I won't discount this research you presented, it doesn't seem to "fit". I'd llike to see the full study to understand their research better.

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    ah, i had heard that tren can be MISTAKEN for e2 on some blood tests. like your actual e2 is 10 and it still shows as 400. because of the tren
    Nope, doesn't happen. And you can take that to the bank. I've done bloodwork with tren at 100/wk and at 200/wk. Bloods look great.
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    yeah i have read it's only certain labs... using the ECLIA method?

    dunno though.

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