~ Wesley Versus 4-Andro MiNi 'BULK' Log ~

[WesleyInman]

Not a sponsored Log-

Doing this to help give people an idea what this compound can do.

Most recent pic to start off log-

BODYWEIGHT:

200ish in this pic. Striations all over,except mid section has not been addressed yet. I was on epiandro for several months prior @ 3-400mgs ED average, but I have been off for about a month prior to this run beginning.

Bodyfat %

Won't even get into this pissing match. Striations all over, abs def need some trimming at some point. I am in no hurry. Please no one ask or fight over this.



I am running 4andro at

8 caps per day in increments of 3/3/2 on workout days

6 caps per day in increments of 2/2/2 on NON workout days.

I am not using HRT, or ANY other testosterone products, prohormones at all during this run.


I will be using

1)a preworkout, either Ultimate orange Juiced, or Illicit or both during this run- Workout days only

2) BLue- My nootropic product

3) Prescription Nutrition Problend and Whey Protein (blueberry muffin flavor)

4) Epimedium compounds

5) liv52

Diet
I will increase calories from 3K ED to at least 4K ED for this run. Percentage wise I am aiming for 45/35/20- Protein @ 45%, Cabrs @ 35%, Fats @ 20%. Again.."AIMING" I will not list specifics I dont have time.

But alot of chicken breast, eggs, tuna, whole milk, yogurt,peanut butter..oatmeal...all the items you would use during a bulk and that are cost effective. I am shopping primarily at Aldi's for my food. Hate me if you wish,there stuff is not bad at all.

Workout

Lowering rep ranges, increasing rest times. Will be lucky to have 3-4 days per week to the gym. 1 hour at most. Some abs during that time frame. But my goal is to add some size and strength back after recently having leaned out.

Tanning

Yes


Cardio

GF will handle fully

LENGTH OF RUN

45-60 days TBD

CURRENT STATUS

On or Near DAY 10-12. I have put on about 5lbs so far. Mind you, I was depleted previous as I was leaning out intentionally and now I am "bulking". So diet has improved in that time frame, rest periods have been longer, reps have been less.

I have noticed better overall mood, energy, oily skin, some red pimples on shoulders, back and arms. I have noticed strength increases and better aggression in the gym. Appetite is a bit better, slight increase in libido for sure. Maybe a bit cranky on the days I take 8caps, slightly more then normal.


What else?

I cannot fairly give out estimated strength at this point. The last few months I have been in strict bodybuilding mode, lighter weights, high reps, reps in the 20 range. So my strength is definitely down. So in all fairness, I will see immediate increases in strength regardless..but I can say so far, i do feel stronger from using this product.


At times I may experiment and empty the caps into powder form and drink an hour before my workout to see if it has any effect. This would be similar to those of you who may have used PROP, Suspension, or chewed up orals hour or two prior to workout to see immediate strength increases.


This is an experiment. I have never run 4andro SOLO, nor have I run it high dosage. I have no expectations or goals. Just bigger and stronger. Feel free to leave questions. I will be here 2-3 days per week at most to update.

Thanx everyone.

-Wesley

"WES15" for 15% off at IronMagLabs.com and IronMagResearch.com"

[noneck]

is the 4 -andro IML brand ur useing??

[entropy]

Was considering running a couple bottles of this with some epiandro on my next cycle. Physique is looking good Wes. In for this.

[WesleyInman]

is the 4 -andro IML brand ur useing??

Hey man yes this is

Was considering running a couple bottles of this with some epiandro on my next cycle. Physique is looking good Wes. In for this.

Thank you so much man. That combo seems to be super popular. I may do the same thing after this run. 200mgs of epiandro and 2-300 of 4andro. I see no reason not to do 90 days or more, if money allows. Ty for compliment man..

Ty to the forum as always for letting me post my logs here.. you guys are awesome as usual

Tuesday

Biceps/Triceps

Tricep Pushdowns

50x20

100x10

150x10

200(rack) x 10

Bicep Hammer Curls

25x20

45x10

65x10

Skullcrushers, super deep extensions (head off bench and lower the bar to the floor and up and back, not above the forehead)

60x20

90x10

90x10

Preacher Bench

105x15

105x15

125x15


Traps

Wesley Inman Shrugs

45x20

45x20

90x20 (holding 2 plates per hand)

90x20

Called it a day, ran out of time.

Weds- Shoulders/Back

Dumbell Military

50x20

75x20

90x10

120x10

Pullovers (wide grip, elbows flared out)

35x20

55x20

90x10


Full extension on all of them

Ez Curl Seated Military Press (odd grip- hits different heads of the shoulders)

100x20

100x20

100x20

Seated Pulldowns

200x10

200x10

200x20

Close Grip Underhand pullups (arching lower body forward to hit back)

Bodyweight

x20

x20


Again ran out of time, called it a day

NOTE**

On both the last 2 days, I took 8 caps but on the bicep day, I used 3 caps, emptied the caps into my PWO and took 1 hour prior. Today, I tried 5 caps at once, same thing. 1 hour prior.

I notice immediate strength increases when doing this. I will not do this often since this does not encourage an even blood plasma level, which I find is more important for a better overall gain, but I wanted to see what kind of result I would get.

I genuinely loved the feeling it gave. I would do this all the time, if money was not an issue.


None of the weight were remotely close to failure. I went through the workout, nice and slow and controlled reps. All of them went up with ease. I will gradually push the envelope, but I also want to make sure I have a full hour for a session before I do so.

Bicep day was 45mins, and shoulder day - maybe 30, plus my daughter was with me@ gym, so this was distracting.


In all honesty, I feel awesome on this compound.

Nothing new to report, except maybe I am seeing way more hair growth(facial and body) and darkening of the hair. Sleep has been off for 2 days, not sure if it is relative.

Super motivated to see what happens. Workouts are exciting again. I find a supplement can very often change motivation levels. I am not going to go through the motions on this run, like I have been for some time. This will certainly stimulate new growth.

See you guys 2morrow. Leg Day.

[VayneZ]

Wes looking SIICCKK bro! I'll be following this man! Niceee

[WesleyInman]

Wes looking SIICCKK bro! I'll be following this man! Niceee

Thank you VayneZ and hope ur well man!!!!

DerekH thank you so much as well man.. much appreciated to see you in here as well!!!!!!!

Thank you again for everyone following.


Today is day 14-16...sorry I lost track of the exact day I started, but its like the 2 week mark, give or take.

Got my products in and grabbed some Osta for a bridge and some epiandro as well. 3 more bottles of 4andro will last me about 30 days more. So for now I know I am going to run this for at least 45 days minimum.



Leg Day (last Friday)

Squats (ATG)

135x20 warmup

225x10

315x10

315x10 (hip flexor is bothering me big time)

405x3

405x3..way too much pain..gotta go lower so I dont get injured. Hip Flexor is on fire.

315x 10- 5 second pauses.

Here is the depth I got on all of these..This is super old footage, but nonetheless here is average depth just as FYI. Also you may recognize the guy in the video as Iron Mike. Infamous guy from the Youtube video "Worlds Strongest Man IRON MIKE". He actually is a very nice guy and very strong, regardless of that video which though hysterical, is a bit sad..

VIDEO LINK

Strongman Wesley Inman featuring Iron Mike. Super Deep Squat 405lbs. - YouTube

Lunges( 45 plate in each hand)

x100 ft

x100ft

x100ft

Leg Extensions

Toes in- Toes out- Neutral Positions

50x20

50x20

50x20

Seated Calf Raises (my own 3 prong calf lifting style)

1 plate (45) x 20

2x20

3x20


Hit some hanging ab raises and called it a day...ran out of time.

No new updates on the 4-andro. Can't say I am seeing any differences then what I have already commented on. I will weigh in at the end of this week and see where I am at. Not sure I have gained any weight, but I honestly have more energy and feel a bit fuller during the day on this compound. Definitely hair growth is accelerated and oily skin, so for sure it is converting. This is not in doubt one bit.


Gonna hit chest/traps today..will report back within 24 hours...

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[Freepressright]

Thank you VayneZ and hope ur well man!!!!

DerekH thank you so much as well man.. much appreciated to see you in here as well!!!!!!!

Thank you again for everyone following.


Today is day 14-16...sorry I lost track of the exact day I started, but its like the 2 week mark, give or take.

Got my products in and grabbed some Osta for a bridge and some epiandro as well. 3 more bottles of 4andro will last me about 30 days more. So for now I know I am going to run this for at least 45 days minimum.



Leg Day (last Friday)

Squats (ATG)

135x20 warmup

225x10

315x10

315x10 (hip flexor is bothering me big time)

405x3

405x3..way too much pain..gotta go lower so I dont get injured. Hip Flexor is on fire.

315x 10- 5 second pauses.

Here is the depth I got on all of these..This is super old footage, but nonetheless here is average depth just as FYI. Also you may recognize the guy in the video as Iron Mike. Infamous guy from the Youtube video "Worlds Strongest Man IRON MIKE". He actually is a very nice guy and very strong, regardless of that video which though hysterical, is a bit sad..

VIDEO LINK

Strongman Wesley Inman featuring Iron Mike. Super Deep Squat 405lbs. - YouTube

Lunges( 45 plate in each hand)

x100 ft

x100ft

x100ft

Leg Extensions

Toes in- Toes out- Neutral Positions

50x20

50x20

50x20

Seated Calf Raises (my own 3 prong calf lifting style)

1 plate (45) x 20

2x20

3x20


Hit some hanging ab raises and called it a day...ran out of time.

No new updates on the 4-andro. Can't say I am seeing any differences then what I have already commented on. I will weigh in at the end of this week and see where I am at. Not sure I have gained any weight, but I honestly have more energy and feel a bit fuller during the day on this compound. Definitely hair growth is accelerated and oily skin, so for sure it is converting. This is not in doubt one bit.


Gonna hit chest/traps today..will report back within 24 hours...

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I see you have a bottle of Osta-RX in the picture. I was totally going to jump on buying some of that until I saw "Fenuside" listed on the ingredient label. I'm stunned.

Why in the hell would IML, a company that puts out solid products, see fit to put a fenugreek extract (a potent 5ar inhbitor) into an Osta product? It has absolutely no place whatsoever in this product and makes zero sense.

I was injured from fenugreek to the point that I felt almost as bad as these Post-Finasteride guys do, albeit in a much shorter term. This herb is too risky. They might as well have just added saw palmetto, because it does essentially the same thing as "Fenuside."

Sorry to hijack your log, Wes, but I was incensed when I saw that label the other day.

Enjoying watching your progress, bud. Please keep us posted!

[WesleyInman]

I see you have a bottle of Osta-RX in the picture. I was totally going to jump on buying some of that until I saw "Fenuside" listed on the ingredient label. I'm stunned.

Why in the hell would IML, a company that puts out solid products, see fit to put a fenugreek extract (a potent 5ar inhbitor) into an Osta product? It has absolutely no place whatsoever in this product and makes zero sense.

I was injured from fenugreek to the point that I felt almost as bad as these Post-Finasteride guys do, albeit in a much shorter term. This herb is too risky. They might as well have just added saw palmetto, because it does essentially the same thing as "Fenuside."

Sorry to hijack your log, Wes, but I was incensed when I saw that label the other day.

Enjoying watching your progress, bud. Please keep us posted!

Ty again for everyone following and the feedback

Great question FPR. Great to see u too btw TBH I am not experienced in Fenugreek personally, so I cannot even lend experience in this department. Even with Osta, my experience is limited, compared to my experiences with AAS and most other supplements.

I have never used their Osta before, and tbh I got that product so that I can try it for a month as a bridge in between products. I don't have an end date, but I might even do 4andro for 2-3 months LOL. Then Osta for a month. Then likely back to EpiAndro, unless the 4andro impresses me that much

Whats up Strong Guy!!

Monday Updates-

Chest and Traps

40 minute workout


Warmup Biceps, Triceps and Back well before the workout

Flat Bench

135x20

225x10

315x6

315x6

315x6

315x6

(not going super heavy on any motions, just yet. I have been doing bodybuilding work for months and honestly my overall strength has decreased slightly. I certainly cannot hit this weight for what I can, when I train heavy.

My PR lift proportionately with flat bench was 315x16 reps at 207lbs BW- At under 200 lbs, I wanna say it was 13-14?? I can't hit 14 right now..no way. 12 yes.

2009 video--

Wesley Inman Strongman 315lbs x13 Bench Press @ 199BW - YouTube

Wesley Inman Traps ( I post this every log for anyone new looking to learn the method. Sorry to those of you who have seen this every single log)

45x20

45x20

45x20 - 5 second pauses at top

45x20 " "

Wesley Inman Strongman . Add size to your traps quickly. - YouTube

Incline Dumbells (weight per hand)

75x20

120x10

120x10

120x10

Upright Rows-

135x20

135x20

135x20


These didn't feel strong today

Hanging Ab Raises, some crunches, ran out of time.

Called it a day.

What I am noticing still from 4andro is if I take too many caps at once, I do feel a bit irritable. But I have been overall taking the even increments I stated. Strength feels good, and I now that I am handling heavier weight, I am a bit sore, but I also am recovering quite quickly tbh. Appetite is noticeably better. Endurance is slightly better. Libido is about the same now...skin is oilier and hair growth is very noticeable. I am shaving way more often.

Overall very happy. Nothing insane to report, but product is working for sure. This is a different feeling from EpiAndro altogether for those who have asked.

Also, getting alot of questions about the protein I use. (except on S.S- LOL - Sorry guys, copy and paste) It is a 4blend product called PROBLEND- that is great for bulking since it has fast, moderate and slow digesting proteins in it. The quality is excellent, the price is super fair and the taste is unbeatable IMO. I use this "in addition" to whole foods, not to replace it.

LINK TO PROTEIN:

~ProBlend -4 Protein Blend- #1 RANKED PROTEIN @ GYMnTONIC! ~ - GymNTonic.com

Also as mentioned previous logs, I blend in protein with low fat peanut butter, raw oats, ice cubes, yogurt, banana, and sometimes even a scoop of ice cream.


Other brands that I find to be solid are MuscleFeast, ON, and Trutein, I am a fan of all of the above

Biceps and Back later today.

[WesleyInman]

Update Tuesday

Right around week 3 of 4 andro.


I have not weighed in yet again, gonna wait it out. But diet has been ok. I am definintely slightly bigger. What I am noticing, is during my workouts, I keep much more of a pump then normal. After workout, I seem more vascular for longer periods of time.

No sides to report, except maybe excess hair growth on face, stomach and shoulders. Definitely hair on head is getting darker too.

Overall I am still happy, though I am still waiting for the true results to kick in. It may take the entire length of this run to really have full details, since a product that converts to Test is going to be a nice clean lean gain...So I am not expecting anything insane.


Strength is solid. Recovery is too:

Biceps and Triceps

Hammer Curls (dumbells per hand)

25x10

35x10

45x10

75x8

Skull Crusher variations

30x20

40x20

50x20

60x20

80x20

Incline Dumbell Curls (isolated)

30x10

40x10

50x10


Kickbacks

20x20 supinated

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Straight Bar Curls

135x10

135x10

135x10

Tricep Pushdown variation

50x20

100x20

150x20


Called it a day. Good workout, but honestly I did not work to failure or even close on any set. My intensity was so so in this workout...primarily because I did not sleep well the night before.

Otherwise so far so good..nothing unbelievable to report to date, but product is working.

[derekh83]

Definitely interested in how the new andros work.