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    Sus250 for a Beginner?

    Would be first trip to the dark side. I've did a run 6 wk run of Dermacrine before with pretty good success. I'm currently priming, trying to shed another 5 pounds before I begin to get to around 10 percent body fat.

    That would put me at 5'10, 178lbs at around 10 percent bf. 30 years old.

    I'd was planning on doing a longer run, 10 to 12 weeks at 500 mg a week. Plan on front loading using roidcalc.

    Any support sup I'd need to go with it?
    Anything to control estrogen?
    Could I use Dermacrine stacked to help control estrogen and side effects?
    PCT- RES 100 enough or should I use Clomid, or both?

    Any advice is welcome.

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    You will need clomid or Torem for PCT. Res 100 will not be anywhere near strong enough after using real aas. I would also go with letro for estro control.

    why Sus250 and not just something like Test E at 500mg?

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    Frontload with 1000 mg first week but split that into multiple shots, virgin muscle sucks.

    I'd get enanthate not sustanon if possible, if you do get sustanon I'd probably pin it MWF, with enanthate mon/thurs

    Control estro with aromasin or letro. No dermacrine.

    PCT:
    clomid 50/50/50/50/25/25
    Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 eod longer if needed
    Res100 would be a good addition, I also like DAA

    If you get sustanon you probably don't need to front load but the longer esters will take 3-4 weeks to clear instead of 2.

    Take my advice with a grain of salt, just did my first cycle of test and gyno came in pct, didn't use an ai in pct regretting that haha

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    yeah sus 250 is just more expensive testosterone, designed for trt patients, it has multiple esters mixed in. Stay away from it, test e 2x a week is the way to start.

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    Test E or C is a much much better choice. If you already have the sust, then sell or trade it. I'd recommend HCG on cycle and you'll need an AI all during the cycle and during pct and a SERM for pct.
    All advice given is for entertainment value only. And it's free. Take it for what it's worth.

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    You'd be real smart to get bloodwork before you start as well.
    I ain't afraid of SHIT!...except snakes.

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    I would take that Sus250 off your hands if needed lol

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    I might actually be using sustainability for my next cycle, whenever that is. Much as a pure ester is nice, there's a possibly I might have access to pharm susta.

    To TS definitely control estro sides. Pct with pharmaceuticals, not supplements,an ai and hcg during your cycle

    How old are you, ts?

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    Haven't acquired anything as of yet. So I'll take the advice and use Test-E after further research. Also, I'll use Eric's HCG protocol and Clomid/RES 100 for PCT. Big question is the AI, I've read contradicting reports. Though my question is if using Proviron(DHT) would there be a need for an AI? Would anyone advice against that? If so could you explain why?

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    dont use proviron, i used it @ 50mg and it was not worth the money. masteron is way better.

    just use letro or a good sized dose of aromasin.

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