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    Jel brings it again. IMHO stopping mid cycle when you're shutdown already might be just pushing for another shutdown after all issues are sorted out.

    and i know it's been beaten to death, but whats with all the 20 y.o's running gear?
    this issue ties into Infamy's post really well... moderation and patience makes it safer
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    They wanna get big, pretty simple lol.

    I never keep my gear on base, but i did to pin, i cant shoot my own butt, idk why. Delts legs, all fine, butt, i just never think Im in the right spot. So my buddy was gonna do it for me. I had it barely hidden and we had a health and wellness inspectio ...they almost found it. Great timing huh? Then last night Doctor P, and KOAN Sound (dubstep artists) came through Seattle. I just had to go to my first concert ever. Had drinks, apparently not drinking for weeks really kills your tolerance to that of a 16yr old girl. I had like 3 shots and 4beers over 5 hours, and I was gone. No more drinking, that was a very, very special occassion. But I had a way home and all and planned it out so no repeat of last time. Got 1 hour of sleep and was still drunk...pt was rough lol

    Legs are later today, cant wait to puke lol

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    So you're continuing your cycle? And you live in seattle?

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    Im stationed down in Tacoma.
    Should I be stopping or continuing. You guys are giving me 2 different responses
    1 intelligent side said stoo, so I listened..the other said continue and do a long pct to prevent a weird shutdown. I have no problem doing either if it's bst for me. But I'm getting 2 different forms of advice here. I went with the last one given. I'm not putting blame or saying this is like someone's fault but I'm being pulled in 2 different directions.

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    I would finish your cycle and spend it working really hard on your squat and deadlift and make your form immaculate, realizing you have a lot more progress to make and you should not cycle again for a long time, until you can double the results from the cycle naturally, which will take a fuck ton of dedication. By then, you should be solid. I wouldn't expect you to be that far along by the end of a test e cycle starting with a 135 squat, but I think you're pretty shutdown by now so finish what you started. Recovery from my 16 weeker was a drag though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    I would finish your cycle and spend it working really hard on your squat and deadlift and make your form immaculate, realizing you have a lot more progress to make and you should not cycle again for a long time, until you can double the results from the cycle naturally, which will take a fuck ton of dedication. By then, you should be solid. I wouldn't expect you to be that far along by the end of a test e cycle starting with a 135 squat, but I think you're pretty shutdown by now so finish what you started. Recovery from my 16 weeker was a drag though.
    I agree on this, tough its not neccessary to go 16 weeks. And as well as training he should train his mentality, as strange as it sounds- as much as he train his muscles he can train his subconscious mind- basically he should use "good feel" and positive statements and engrave them in his mind.
    For subconscious mind, person must beleive in what is trying to engrave- because on cycle his mood will be elevated and full of self esteem subc. mind will be convinced in positive statements/afirmations.
    Pygmalion effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    After cycle is finished- take very long pct, and after that you should be done with your cycles, for good.
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    Roger that.

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    Go on with the cycle. Push yourself to the limit but don't you quit once you're done!

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    Usually I'm an "Just do it" kind of guy, but I gotta go with Burly and DJM on this one. I'm a 76" too, and I started out real skinny (180) It wasn't until I really learned how to eat/squat/dead that I was able to actually make gains that would stick around, even when I got injured and couldn't really kill it in the gym. I think that because of this base I can on most of my lean body mass sticking around even when I'm reduced to bodyweight excercises for extended periods. As a military guy you're in the same sort of situation.

    I bet you could hit 225 at 12% natty with just a few tweaks, and that stuff sticks around. Drop 16wks of test on that and you'll be beautiful!

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    Oh yeah, as a long-limbed 76"er I would encourage you to squat wide, if You're in a rack your toes should touch the sides, also do a lot of pulling variations, but when you're going heavy do it sumo. Again if you're pulling in a rack your toes should touch the sides.

    If you're not eating a lot more than your buddies you're not eating enough! To be muscular at your height you will have to murder calories! Drink that milk buddy!

    Hope that helps man.
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    I recommend stopping the cycle immediately and doing the required PCT. In the meantime and thereafter, work on the basics: nutrition, nutrition, nutrition; correct form exercise; and mental/"spiritual" focus. You're still all over the place - what with the concert shenanigans you report. You need to start walking the walk on the BB path - it's a life-time journey, not a trip to the (underground) drugstore - and develop the physical and, especially, the mental, foundation for being able to then use AAS or phs as an effective and (relatively) safe tool. This isn't easy; put your apparent reserves of willpower to work on it, though, and you'll do fine.
    Last edited by Sperwer; 06-21-2013 at 04:08 AM.
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