Carb Backloading?

[Grape Ape]

No doubt this is the talk of the forum these days, and I am overly intrigued. Problem is all the info on CBL seems to be hidden in secrecy, or a book I have to pay for.

So where is the best place to learn about CBL without dropping a dime?

[Jack O'Neill]

Just take a look at the forum. You will find all what you want.

And scope75 or I may advice you I think :-)

Link to forum: athlete.io

[Scope75]

Eat protein and fats all day then have your carbs post workout or backload the night before if your a morning lifter.
That's pretty much what you need to do.
Oh and start out with a 10 day prep of 30 or less carbs a day before you start CBL.

[Grape Ape]

Thank you. I gathered most of that from on here. Was confused about an article by the Arthur mentioning what kind of training won't work for this diet. Even said DC training wouldn't work. Some BS that certain styles of training dont translocate glute 4 and similar receptors. Sounded like BS to either push his workout routine, or the book. All his writing made it sound like there were all these little rules that if one wasn't followed, the whole diet goes to crap.

Here's my questions: How many hours should I give before training? Can I have carbs intra workout? Should I limit the period of carb consumption to only a few hours or can I go all night? Should the carb free period be longer than the carb up portion? How about fat with my carbs?

[olddawg]

-my 2 cents, no fat with carbs
-workout carb free so your muscles are going to suck up the carbs afterward, when you carb up that should be enough to get you through your next workout.
-if you workout at night, then eat caarbs after workout until bed, even get up for some carbs if you want. you have to manage how many carbs you intake here though so you don't take more thank you need
-carb free should be longer than the carb portion.

I remember reading somewhere that if you are totally depleted, you can eat 7-8g of carbs per lean body pound. that's 1400+g of carbs for a 200lb man. Fk, or was that 7-8g of carbs per lean kg? can't remember now lol

[Macdon1588]

The book is worth getting but the crux of the program is carb cycling. If you workout around 2-4, then you carb load on the back side of the day. The carb up period ought to be low fat and not really crazy. I had pretty good success with it strength wise, but my schedule is shit so I went back to carb nite solution. He's going to release a newer version soon hopefully which will better help guys like me who work shift work.

[Grape Ape]

Would peptopro be out of the question intra-workout?
If I'm on a 3 day split(M,W,F) would it be beneficial to backload on non training days? If not how should I base the diet for those days?

Keep the answers coming, and I'll keep the rep flowing.

[Jack O'Neill]

Would peptopro be out of the question intra-workout?
If I'm on a 3 day split(M,W,F) would it be beneficial to backload on non training days? If not how should I base the diet for those days?

Keep the answers coming, and I'll keep the rep flowing.

If you're bulking, backload every day
Otherwise backload only after workout after 6-7PM. On non workout days, ULC. No carbs at all

Concerning peptopro I use it intra and post workout as adviced by Kiefer.

[Grape Ape]

Thanks, I think I've got this down mostly, and this is def geared towards a bulk.

More questions to come...

[Jack O'Neill]

Slam the carbs Grape Ape :-)

With my exp. too much carbs mean fat gain, even in the afternoon. The harder thing to do, to my mind, is to find the good amount of carbs to eat.

Good luck!