i USED to speak highly of epistane, thought it was better than winny (from what iv heard of winny) and a poor man's var......however i last ran epi alongside test and mast, 60mg 4wks, and results were outweighed by sides (lipids and headaches), var was already better in my mind, then i found a great source for anavar and the last time i used it , 40-50mg blew away epistane across the board, with immaculate bloods