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    August Cycle Help

    I'm going to do a 5 week recomp Epistane cycle beginning in August. Here's what I have in mind. Please let me know your thoughts; specifically if there is a better non-methyl PH to stack with Epi besides 1-Andro from AMS.

    Cycle Length - 5 weeks
    Epistane (probably Havoc but might try Epi-Strong) - 20, 30, 30, 40, 40
    1-Andro (AMS) - 2 tablets per day
    Dermacrine - 5 pumps per day

    Support Supps: N2 Guard, R-ALA, Tumeric (take this throughout year), Fish Oil, Toco supp, Vitamin D (take this throughout year) and would like add a solo liver support supplement if someone can suggest one

    PCT: 25mg HG Clomid, TCF-1, Forma-Stanzol, Toco supp

    Any advice/help is appreciated. I'm 34 and have done a few PH cycles in the past. Some good and some not so good. This will probably be my last one using a methyl compound so I want to make it count and do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky98 View Post
    I'm going to do a 5 week recomp Epistane cycle beginning in August. Here's what I have in mind. Please let me know your thoughts; specifically if there is a better non-methyl PH to stack with Epi besides 1-Andro from AMS.

    Cycle Length - 5 weeks
    Epistane (probably Havoc but might try Epi-Strong) - 20, 30, 30, 40, 40
    1-Andro (AMS) - 2 tablets per day
    Dermacrine - 5 pumps per day

    Support Supps: N2 Guard, R-ALA, Tumeric (take this throughout year), Fish Oil, Toco supp, Vitamin D (take this throughout year) and would like add a solo liver support supplement if someone can suggest one

    PCT: 25mg HG Clomid, TCF-1, Forma-Stanzol, Toco supp

    Any advice/help is appreciated. I'm 34 and have done a few PH cycles in the past. Some good and some not so good. This will probably be my last one using a methyl compound so I want to make it count and do it right.
    Looks like a recomp stack to me. Got plans for the diet?

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    Is forma stan enough AI?
    The spirit that I have seen may be the devil: and the devil hath power to assume a pleasing shape; yea, and perhaps out of my weakness and my melancholy, as he is very potent with such spirits, abuses me to damn me.

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    I adopted IF last year and love it. I'll be using an IF and Anabolic Diet combo. No carbs Sunday to early Friday evening around 6pm. Carb load Friday evening and Saturday. 16 hour fast per day (eating window will be 12-8) with a 24 hour fast on Friday (fast will start at 6pm on Thursday and go to 6pm on Friday when carb load begins). Will keep calories between 1200 - 1500 Sunday through Thursday and then eat double this Friday and Saturday (give or take, I don't count calories Friday evening and Saturday during carb load). Will have about 170 grams of protein per day.

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    That stack for that length shouldn't need an AI, certainly not a pharma AI. But hell it's always good to have one on hand right?

    Glad to hear IF works for you Rocky. A lot of guys talk about having great results with it. I ran it for 12 weeks and just couldn't maintain mass. I think I wasn't recovering well during the day.

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    I'd prefer not use a pharma AI, what if I kept Erase Pro on hand just in case any issues flare up. Would that be sufficient?

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    Out of curiousity, what is the hesitation to a pharma AI?

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    If you are thinking about erase I'd go with the original erase, you can control the dosing easier (25 mg caps vs 75 mg caps)
    Aegis for liver protection

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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    Out of curiousity, what is the hesitation to a pharma AI?
    Potency, not sure if something that strong is needed for this type of cycle. I'm not against it just would prefer to use something less potent. Is my thinking wrong on this? Should I go the pharma route for the AI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enuke65 View Post
    If you are thinking about erase I'd go with the original erase, you can control the dosing easier (25 mg caps vs 75 mg caps)
    Aegis for liver protection
    Erase @ 75mg gave me and many others joint pain, and for me it was intolerable. I had some Erase pro so I ended up re capping them so they contained 50 mg. Unfortunately the other compounds in Erase pro were now a third less than their proper dosage, but at least it was better than throwing them away. Triazole is also worth looking at as an alternative to Erase.

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