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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    My thoughts on the cycle...

    Overall, a well thought out plan. Someone has been doing their homework, so props to you BD.

    Things I'd change:

    Up your AI. 12.5 ED, IMO, and double it during the 4 weeks of dbol.

    Osta at 5mg max. Studies showed no suppression at 1-3 mg, but above that, all bets are off. It IS anabolic at only 1mg/day, though.
    Thanks for the props! I'll do more homework on the Osta for sure. Damn, that's a lot of AI. So you'd do 25 ED for the 1st 4 weeks, then 12.5 ED, then back up to 25 ED while I'm back on Dbol waiting for test to clear? I'm gonna need more AI....lol

    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Good luck man..Yeah the PCT and HCG the entire time are the only things that stood out to me. What is the reason behind running HCG the entire time?
    What stuck out about the PCT? HCG the whole way seems to be the new norm. More insurance on recovery and the sack stays nice and full. I have read a little here and there about tolerance, but it's sparse......

    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    i run hcg whole time, i like my sack full
    ill second the dbol at the end too............if you have it why not
    id air on the side of caution darting pins, lide them in, theyll do the job,much like spewer said
    Yeah, I wasn't really going to stab per se, more like jab at 1st then slide/push. I'll stop being a pussy one day. Maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grape Ape View Post
    I want to pin test so bad...I should not be in this thread.



    Good luck!
    Thanks Grape! That was me for the last 6 months!

    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    Fuck osta... Also just run exemestane in PCT not erase.

    I would definitely insert the needle at a medium speed. Darting hurts and usually if you go semi slow you can tell if you're going to hit a nerve before you actually do. Darting at a nerve guarantees that pain will happen.

    Also just my opinion but since dbol converts to estro I would be hesitant to run it pre-pct. probably try var or if you don't want to do Orals just run prop at the end! Or mast haha, one vial would be good

    When you say pre-pct, you mean at the end while test clears?

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    Yeah, because I feel like dbol will induce a much deeper suppression than var or mast or any DHT's... Androhard even.

    Theoretically I think recovery could begin if you're only taking a DHT which is what you'd wanna do for the end, then drop it last and recovery comes quick and easy. Just a thought though, everyone else who said do the dbol is more experienced than I.

    But I still don't see why I would wanna gain a bunch more water right before PCT. or does enough AI prevent the water gain from dbol?

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