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    I'd guess it's the Katanadrol v3 causing the problem. Apparently it's 6a-Chloro-androst-4-en-17b-ol-3-one, which is Hexadrone???


    They have put caffeine into each serving to create with a diuretic effect and there's also some other herbs with a diuretic effect in the blend.
    Def not what I would want to take with Mechabol!

    Drop it immediately.

    Edit"......... Katanadrol isn't Hexadrone, I think it may be 1-Andro, not sure, anyway, can't be bothered researching a product that uses caffeine with a prohormones, DS, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markam View Post
    I'd guess it's the Katanadrol v3 causing the problem. Apparently it's 6a-Chloro-androst-4-en-17b-ol-3-one, which is Hexadrone???


    They have put caffeine into each serving to create with a diuretic effect and there's also some other herbs with a diuretic effect in the blend.
    Def not what I would want to take with Mechabol!

    Drop it immediately.
    Yes it seems that v3 is very different from v2 and maybe less potent.

    I will stop Katanadrol tomorrow. I confirm the diuretic effect. Even if I stop to drink from 6PM, I wake up @ 2AM to piss. It sucks....
    Thanks everybody for your feedback.

    I will maybe add some oxo11 to replace katanadrol
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Or maybe something else to stack with mecha. Something which starts quickly 'cause it remains 3 weeks in my cycle. I could increase the cycle time with the other product but I don't know what I can take.

    I keep katanadrol for a next cycle when I cut before summer.

    For this cycle, I keep the same diet. Clean carbs only around training. Prot+fat otherwise with 1.8g/lbs of prots
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    Week 4-week 7/8?
    - Epistane
    - oxo11
    - stanodrol
    - other?

    Which dosage ?

    Any advice? Thx
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    I wouldn't run 11-oxo as the effects aren't that significant unless you run it at a high dose, which is expensive and causes lethargy.
    How about Trenazone? That should be a great stack. Something like AH would be good to run with Mechabol, Trenazone. Not sure how good forerunner labs copy of AH is, but maybe worth checking out as a substitute for AH. You don't want to run another methyl (Epi) for obvious reasons. Dermacrine would also be good in this stack, IMO.

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    Mechabol / Katanadrol v3 - 6 weeks cycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill View Post
    Yes it seems that v3 is very different from v2 and maybe less potent.

    I will stop Katanadrol tomorrow. I confirm the diuretic effect. Even if I stop to drink from 6PM, I wake up @ 2AM to piss. It sucks....
    Thanks everybody for your feedback.

    I will maybe add some oxo11 to replace katanadrol

    This ^^^^would help explain why you seem to be staying so dry. Mecha and TZ is very good if you have any TZ left from your last run. I'm not sure how much AH you have left but you could run Stano with it to help stretch it out longer if you are in short supply.


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    I must have Trenazone (or Dienazone) in stock - 1,5 or 2 bottles.

    I could do 1.5/2/2/2 or 2/2/2/2 if I can on the 4 next weeks. It's maybe too short??? I can add another bottle
    For AHv3, it remains 84 caps, for 4 caps/day for the 3 last weeks.

    I could buy some stano, but which dosage ? 400, 600, 900mg/day ?
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    Maybe add one bottle of dienazone.

    So I could continue my cycle like that :
    Week 1-6 : Mechabol 150mg
    Week 4-8 : Dienazone 2ml
    Week 4-8 : stano 900mg
    Week 4-8 : AHv3 2 caps

    No increase with carbs, just around training.
    Concerning prots, I take now 1.8g/lbs, 4g/kg and my weight/waist already increased a bit this morning. I should maybe decrease to 1.6g/lbs, around 3.5g/kg

    I'm really afraid of fat and I want to be as lean as today in adding some lean mass.
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    Is it safe to keep mechabol longer than 6 weeks?
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    Mechabol / Katanadrol v3 - 6 weeks cycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill View Post
    Maybe add one bottle of dienazone.

    So I could continue my cycle like that :
    Week 1-6 : Mechabol 150mg
    Week 4-8 : Dienazone 2ml
    Week 4-8 : stano 900mg
    Week 4-8 : AHv3 2 caps

    No increase with carbs, just around training.
    Concerning prots, I take now 1.8g/lbs, 4g/kg and my weight/waist already increased a bit this morning. I should maybe decrease to 1.6g/lbs, around 3.5g/kg

    I'm really afraid of fat and I want to be as lean as today in adding some lean mass.

    That stack looks fine Jack. I think you will see some water retention which may look like fat but it will go away as soon as your dropping the Mecha. At least that has been my experience. I dropped about 3 Lbs the week I stopped Mecha and continued with the remainder of the cycle.

    For the calorie intake I think you need to decide what you want at the end of the run. More strength or staying lean.



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