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    Smile Anbolic technologies

    hey guys i got my hands on a bottle of mass by anabolic technolgoies dosing it says 2-3 per day im thinking of one per day, alos for oncycle i was thinking of running a-hd by bpi fish oil a liver and heart product and for pct erase pro and p6 red extreme your opinoins guys:confused

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    as confused am i as well, good brother
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    It's going to be one of those posts where the bot comes back later to throw in the link to a site.

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    o this isnt a good cycle guys? sorry if i confused yous guys

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    Well, if dosing says 2-3 per day, I dont see point in running 1 per day?

    personally, I think its rather poor choice for cycle, injectables and few oral steroids are still best choice, most of these ph's are rubish IMO, and they are not really safer than proper AAS, its probably other way round

    PCT, I would always go with SERM first, as they have quite few benefits over so called OTC PCT, supplement companies wanted to make people think how SERMS are really bad- but looking at blood profile after OTC PCT its much worse than with conventional PCT used by majority people here (SERM+ a tiny bit of Exem+ vitamin D+ mixed nuts or tocco 8 or similar, recently I realised that viagra or sidenafil works very well with clomid/nolva so that my be addition in future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    recently I realised that viagra or sidenafil works very well with clomid/nolva so that my be addition in future
    Elaborate please my man. In terms of testosterone production or just getting it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    Elaborate please my man. In terms of testosterone production or just getting it up?
    It amplifies effect of clomid, big time- and increasing testosterone levels much faster than with standard pct.

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    Interesting...although at 50mg of clomid I feel it pretty good already. Sounds like fun....

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    here we go:
    Sildenafil increases serum testosterone levels by a direct action on the testes - Spitzer - 2013 - Andrology - Wiley Online Library

    As you can see it works differently from clomid and it actually even reduces LH as it gets used a lot effectively, and because clomid raises LH to the top nubers one could potentially get serious numbers and in record time
    plus it seems that this may have revival effect on Leydig cells
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    From another website:
    Based on the research, acute dosages of Cialis do not have performance-enhancing effects, but new research suggests that Cialis increases testosterone! Researchers had participants perform three 30-second “all-out” sprints to exhaustion and measured testosterone and cortisol responses to exercise. They found that only after Cialis and exercise did testosterone increase, however Cialis also increased cortisol levels. Cialis also lowered the DHEA to cortisol response. The study demonstrates that Cialis increases the “stress” response to the body, but also has some testosterone-enhancing effects as well. It’s interesting that a large dosage of caffeine, which is a weak, non-specific PDE inhibitor, also caused an increase in testosterone and also an increase in cortisol.21 So it seems that Cialis has both positive and negative effects on muscle. Cialis does not directly stimulate testosterone secretion per se, meaning it does not stimulate LH release or SHBG release directly. This is not the first study to find that Cialis raises testosterone:

    In a study of 74 patients with erectile dysfunction treated on demand with 50mg of Viagra or 20mg of Cialis for three months, basal levels of total testosterone and free testosterone were at the bottom of the normal range that was reversed after treatment in both groups. Testosterone increase in Viagra-treated cases was significantly lower than in those treated with Cialis, suggested to be due to the higher frequency of full sexual intercourse in the Cialis-treated group.15

    Another study reported that the increase in testosterone from taking Cialis is mediated by a reduction in estrogen demonstration that Cialis may have anti-estrogen actions. It was pointed out that the T/estradiol ratio was associated with long-term Cialis treatment. There was no increase in LH levels from Cialis, demonstrating that Cialis did not directly increase testosterone, but indirectly increased testosterone by lowering estrogen.16

    One of the primary reasons that many older men have problems “rising to the occasion” is that they have excess estrogen levels. Furthermore, in men with hypogonadism, a low dose of clomiphene citrate (Clomid) is effective in improving testosterone:estrogen ratio, thus giving more long-term benefit for the management of erectile dysfunction in hypogonadal patients.18 It seems that based on the current study, Cialis has similar actions to Clomid by improving T:E ratio.

    There is also a decent study that shows Cialis has anti-estrogen capabilites

    Erection drugs have anti-oestrogenic effect


    I am seeing my heart doctor next week and talking to him about everyday Cialis (2.5 mg to 5 mg daily). Benefits include:

    Lower blood Pressure
    Improvement in Cardiomyopathy (which I have)
    Prostate protective / improving

    Increased Vascularity
    Increased Testosterone
    Better Testosterone to Estrogen ratios

    and of course taking it every day you get wood like a teenager.
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